Would you buy new, slim, SDA speakers?

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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited February 2004
    Yes, he has some 1b's that I'm picking up for James (you met him at the Texas Gathering - he brought the RT800's).

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited February 2004
    Russ,

    I have heard the SRS's at length from time to time over the years and I understand the concepts behind how and why they work and I would think that what the SRT's are capable of would be the same more or less, but I don't know because I've never heard them. How would you characterize the SRT's and in paricular the differences and/or similarities to the SRS's.
    Rick
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited February 2004
    I can't comment on the SRT's - I've only seen them in pictures, never heard them in person.

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited February 2004
    Hmmmm ... Thought you had ...

    Guess I'm gonna have to take a trip down to Polk central one of these days ...
    Rick
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2004
    Same for me... SRT's are rare birds. What we have like one member who owns them?
    Originally posted by disneyjoe7
    I at lease think SE Taxas is too far to drive, flights are up there:(
    Hell, I drove to Orlando to pick up a pair of DQ-10's...
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,773
    edited February 2004
    I've heard the SRT on a 200 watt amp...

    I've heard the 1.2TL on a 412 watt amp...

    I like the 1.2 better for mids/highs/soundstage

    and I like the SRT for shear bass impact :D
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited February 2004
    So ok so how long does it take you?

    And when's the Polk Feast ? And why haven't I been invited before???????


    Ok, because you became an active member what like YESTERDAY period


    Originally posted by Tour2ma
    Same for me... SRT's are rare birds. What we have like one member who owns them?

    Hell, I drove to Orlando to pick up a pair of DQ-10's...

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    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

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    Parasound Halo A23
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,723
    edited February 2004
    I agree, the main difference that I noticed was the bass slam of the SRT system, but overall I would say they have the same famous Polk sound.

    And yes, PW. It is well known by those that know.
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  • lancer
    lancer Posts: 26
    edited February 2004
    Didn't Bob Carver do the same thing electronically. He called it a sonic holography or somthing. So there should be a way to get the same effect by delaying the signal electronically. I remember Jullian Hurst in the old Stereo Review said that if you used SDA and the Sonic Holography together you would get an exagerated effect. I used to use my Carver Reciever with sonic holography and a pair of CRS 2's (I think that was the model #) and it was great. You could turn out the lights and the walls of the room seemed to disappear, almost hypnotic or surreal. Just a thought.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,723
    edited February 2004
    Lancer,

    That's what half of this thread has been about......SDA vs SH.
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  • jmasterj
    jmasterj Posts: 327
    edited March 2004
    Wow
    what a good topic has all the SDA folks out and about. Now to ask the question again. Why did he stop making the SDA's, and why won't he make some more?

    Oh yea I stand in agreement with whomever said there are some good SDA's still to be had out there. I have a very nice Carver TFM-35x. Some people do take good care of the equipment they have. I just had a bad experience on a Carver Tfm-35x on ebay that I'm still in the process of trying to resolve. I guess I should have said I'd be afraid to trust buying some I can't see and hear.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,773
    edited March 2004
    Why?
    Money
    Why won't he make it again?
    Economy, Market, What people are willing to buy...etc etc etc
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • goingganzo
    goingganzo Posts: 2,793
    edited March 2004
    i bet a sda rt line speaker would cost about twice as much as a normal rt line speaker so if you do it make it with the ls line
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2004
    I think the market is in HT only. When he designed thw SDA speakers HT wasn't in mind.

    People what the best of worlds 2 channel & HT, but people don't care to buy 2 systems (in general) So why build a 2 channel speaker now, just a good HT & so so 2 channel.

    Sad too say :(




    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Why?
    Money
    Why won't he make it again?
    Economy, Market, What people are willing to buy...etc etc etc

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,723
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by disneyjoe7
    I think the market is in HT only.

    In the CC and BB type stores, yes. In the high-end shops, NO! Take a look on Audiogon if you think 2 channel is dead.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,776
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by disneyjoe7
    I think the market is in HT only. When he designed thw SDA speakers HT wasn't in mind.
    :(

    Can you say SRT?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,773
    edited March 2004
    I'm afraid to say that if the SDA line was re-created, to keep them on par of our expectations, they would be greatly out of most of our price range :(
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,776
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    I'm afraid to say that if the SDA line was re-created, to keep them on par of our expectations, they would be greatly out of most of our price range :(

    You're painting with a pretty broad brush there junior. I'm not going to go into my personal finances but just hearing things and reading different things on the forum I can tell you that there's quite a bit of coinage flowing here. I will say that I can afford more expensive than Polks but bang for the buck goes a long way
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,773
    edited March 2004
    I dont know, but my pocket is about 9 grand short of the SRT of what I'm willing to spend ;)

    *most* of our price range


    Granted, I would spend a grand on a pair of 'used' speakers.........
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2004
    F1nut,

    Yes, sorry too say but 2 channel is dead:mad:

    Let me put it this way C-Band satellite television is dead, I'm a big fan working on a device that I have designed for C-Band to work with TiVo or ReplayTv. But C-Band market is so small that I feel is dead, many believe that DirecTV is it, but that's like HT to 2 channel to me. 2 channel as fan's to HT (just look at me, love 2 channel), but it's a small group in the BIG picture. Same to me like C-Band (you know those BIG UGLY DISH you have seen around) that market is small to the "Digital" picture bull DirecTV. Which alot of these channels come from C-Band just to set the record straight.







    Originally posted by F1nut
    In the CC and BB type stores, yes. In the high-end shops, NO! Take a look on Audiogon if you think 2 channel is dead.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,723
    edited March 2004
    DJ,

    I think you've been at the special tea. 2 channel is far from dead and as for your other comments all I can say is WTF!?!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2004
    F1nut,

    Again love my Polk’s, even like my new 150's power hungry SOB's.
    Love my HT even it could be better built in my garage, it's a very lovable house / room.

    But in my eye's 2 channel music is a niche market, like C-Band BUD (Big Ugly Dish) to DirecTV market now. And to me yes is not because either is not superior, they just don't have the market in the big picture.:(

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by disneyjoe7
    But in my eye's 2 channel music is a niche market:(
    Really ? I thought it was HT that was the niche market.
    Rick
    HT+ Sunfire TG IV, Dual CG Sig II's, CinePro 1K2, Oppo 981, Audio Technica PL120, Polk SRT's & F/X1000's, Samsung 71" DLP
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,723
    edited March 2004
    Ah, now you're making sense...lol.

    True high fidelity has always been a niche market, nothing changed there and 2 channel CD's are still out selling anything else.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2004
    2 channel dead?

    Far from it. When was the last time you saw a kid running around with a multichannel MP3 player, or a multichannel CD player, or a multichannel Boombox or a multichannel mini system? And if you want to discuss the music being produced ...I think we have established that there are appx. 1900 SACDs (all of which are not multichannel) and about 800 DVD-As...the rest are STEREO! A lot of the newer A/V purchases made in the big box store are for "round" sound and are used primarily for movies. Those same people "rarely" use those systems for music. They will turn to one of the vast majority of two channel playback systems (radios, boomboxes, personal players etc...) in their home. The average person may sit down for 2 hours to watch a movie...but they will rarely sit down for two hours to listen to music. Being the parent of 2 teenagers (one of which is a college student) I am pretty aware of what gear the kids of today are using and it is NOT multichannel....it is STEREO. I have very little knowledge of Car Audio today but I assume that while it may be multi speakers...it is still 2 channel. I could be wrong.

    High end stereo MAY be a bit of a niche market...but there are many folks with serious HT rigs that also have nice dedicated 2 channel music. Vinyl has made a big resurgence with lots of new turntables on the market.

    Is 2 channel music dying? As long as music remains a casual activity for the majority of listeners then 2 channel will be king.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited March 2004
    We are in the middle of a boom here. With HDTV coming on strong all of a sudden every moron who ever walked through a Best Buy store has to have one and an HT soundsystem to go with it. Let me point out that these people would have never had an interest in audio of any sort otherwise. A boom in one area of a hobby does not mean the demise of another. 2 channel is stronger than ever as far as I can tell. The new group is just that, a new group, not a switchover.
    madmax
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Why?
    Money
    Why won't he make it again?
    Economy, Market, What people are willing to buy...etc etc etc

    That is a pretty bold statement there MX. I assume you have data to back it up? Just for the record I think you are totally wrong. SDA's will be made again someday!
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,776
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by madmax
    That is a pretty bold statement there MX. I assume you have data to back it up? Just for the record I think you are totally wrong. SDA's will be made again someday!

    I already tried to go there. He thinks we all a bunch 'o po folks :confused:
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2004
    I came with strong idea's some good, some bad.

    You all have made very strong points here. So I will say I'm only human, and man enough to admit I was wrong.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,723
    edited March 2004
    DJ,

    I don't think you hit a nerve at all, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I (we) believe otherwise. No harm, no foul.......all is well.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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