have you weened yourself off the treble control?

jcaut

have you weened yourself off the treble control?

Why yes. As a matter of fact, I have. I used to be a treble-cranker. Steve is right about the cassettes and 8-track, though. Especially on the cheap decks I had at the time, treble boost was needed.

Now, as a general rule, I use bypass, tone-defeat, direct... whatever it's called on various pieces of gear, to avoid additional processing. I bought a Sonic Holography pre, though, and the hologram is fun to play with.

Jason

HBombToo

Originally posted by steveinaz


But most everyone put their new albums on cassette, and then listened constantly to the cassette. Cassettes mind you, a whopping 15khz on the high side under the best of circumstances; high quality tape, bias properly adjusted, record levels that were high enough to avoid bad S/N ratios, but low enough not to roll-off high frequencies, ect...

Whew! I feel alot better now....

is DAT any better?

my path forward definetly has a DAT budgeted... cassettes sucked but 8 tracks were ok. Is there a reason to bag the DAT idea?

1/4Twin

ps. I'll catch up:p

KeithV

I've never used the tone controls.. I've messed with them and I prefer flat.

No EQs, no tone, no balance.. I want a pre with no tonal controls, just volume.

steveinaz

I thought DAT was a great idea, unfortunately it was not marketable to the "mass consumer." I used to use a PCM decoder and Hi-Fi VHS to accomplish the same thing--it sounded great--but later relented to all digital sources...

In fact using a hi-fi vhs still works great; no tape hiss and better fidelity than you'll get with the best of reel-to-reel machines. Try it some time, it sounds great.

Tour2ma

Agree steve... even EP mode. A VCR's spinning head creates such a high, effective ips tape speed, it's a very noise free recording.

But say that around reel to reel aficionados, like over at audiokarma, and you'd better be prepared to run...

Taping 6 hour chunks of whatever broadcast music you want, and then editing it down, is a great way to make party tapes...

amulford

Definitley depends on the recording...

Harlowe

Oh is that those nob things I never knew they turned I just assumed they were decorative. I have never used them. Using them is sort of like taking a Picasso and adding your own stuff to the painting. Why change what an artists believes the sound should be like?? How many of you REALLY listen to music as opposed to background sound. By that I mean sit there and listen to the music and not read or talk and appreciate the art. My example of Picasso. Do you go to a museum and read a book or appreciate the art. Or even a more simple example do you take a book to a movie and read or watch and enjoy???

Harlowe

steveinaz

I think we're forgetting the BIGGEST problem, recording engineers and corner-cutting on the production of the music itself. The best system in the world won't do much to help that cause; hence, the bass & treble knob.

PolkThug

Originally posted by steveinaz
I think we're forgetting the BIGGEST problem, recording engineers and corner-cutting on the production of the music itself. The best system in the world won't do much to help that cause; hence, the bass & treble knob.

Good point Steve. Also makes me wish all DVD's were superbit.

Also, you will all be happy to know that I am down to a +2 on treble control, which is a big stretch to me since I was running at +10. It only took about one song worth of listening for my ears to adjust to the new setting. Maybe someday I'll go for 0.

Regards,
PolkThug

sowen010599

I had the treble turned up just a little, maybe 2 or so. Then I was playing around with speaker placement. I moved the mains out about 2' from the wall. They got much, much brighter there. I had to turn the treble back down. Just goes to show you how important proper placement is.

reeltrouble1

Originally posted by Tour2ma

But say that around reel to reel aficionados, like over at audiokarma, and you'd better be prepared to run...

Did somebody say Reel?

When I quit playing with my treble my pimples went away, however, I do occasionally digress. My onk is set to Direct now, it removes the temptation of trebling all over myself.

Still, wonder why some folks say they have spent big bucks for wire to "tone" down a bright system.

madmax

Originally posted by reeltrouble1
Still, wonder why some folks say they have spent big bucks for wire to "tone" down a bright system.

Because they are looking for a very wide peak or dip, not something like a treble control that picks a small range at 5K or 10K which allows that narrow range to be raised or lowered? Those same people might do well with a parametric EQ but I'm sure they would rather have something passive.
madmax:)

reeltrouble1

Originally posted by RuSsMaN
What's Treble?

When I was 18-22 or so, I used to run the EQ in a 'V', and took advantage of the Loudness contour, Bass, and Treble controls. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

Yes Max you make a good point about the passive nature of the wire.

The V was the same thing I was shown when I used an EQ, they were considered nearly essential in my area about 25-30 years ago. They looked very cool. No doubt that an EQ actively changes what you hear. I suppose I was trying to say that I think using wire to tame your system is difficult and can be expensive.

gidrah

On my 2ch rig NO. In fact I've been thinking about putting a resistor in-line with my interconnects and totally bypassing my preamp. I won't be able to adjust the volume without changing ICs, but I usually listen to my music at about the same level on this rig (unless I've been drinking).

On my main HT system I'm running metal horn/compression driver Altecs and solid state. For most music it's superb, but throw on Funkadelic -"Maggot Brain", and it'll shatter your teeth. Fortunately my receiver has a "music direct" mode and a normal mode where I can set the EQ down a little on the highs.

This is also my my 2.1ch movie rig. I tend to pump the bass higher for DVD and VHS. Fortunately I can set each mode accordingly.

weavercr

gidrah Which Altec do you have? My brother has the model-19 Altec.


I run tone bypassed and have for many years. It the early 70's I added treble.

gidrah

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15277

They're A-7 components, but not in the horn loaded woofer cabinet. I'm working on that though.