Speaker cables......what do you think?

French_guy
French_guy Posts: 338
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What do you guys think about those DIY speaker cables, made of 16AWG, multi-twisted pairs in a fabric sleeve and with those "Nakamichi" banana plugs?
Are they any better than the 12AWG speaker cable you can buy at Monoprice for example?
RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
No surround...yet
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,655
    How about actual quality cables at affordable prices?
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/
    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited December 2014
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    How about actual quality cables at affordable prices?
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/
    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/

    Don't forget Frank at Signal Cable. Forum members get a discount.


    http://www.signalcable.com/speaker_cables.html
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,655
    Frank always slips below the radar...think it is because I don't have anything from him the the house. :neutral_face:
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    How about actual quality cables at affordable prices?
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/
    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/
    Douglasconnection, affordable???? 1 x speaker cable - 3 m - at $4,300????
    I've never heard such cable, probably will never happen, but I doubt the sound quality is 100 time better than a regular cable
    For me, it seems to be some "audiophile elitism".....no offense to anyone though

    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,132
    Running Signal Speaker & ICs on the HT rig, quality cables at a good price Frank is a good person to deal with.
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    Canare 4S11 from Doug.
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/Canare-4S11-14AWG-4-Conductor-Speaker-Cable-C4S11.htm
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  • Faustin
    Faustin Posts: 1,149
    I have been looking into AntiCables by Paul Speltz. Relatively affordable compared to a lot of options out there and seem to get outstanding reviews. I have also talked to him about a custom inter-connect for my SDA's and he will make one at $6 / foot. Also offers a 30 day money back guarantee. Has anyone tried these cables and can comment? www.anticables.com
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    French_guy wrote: »
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    How about actual quality cables at affordable prices?
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/
    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/
    Douglasconnection, affordable???? 1 x speaker cable - 3 m - at $4,300????
    I've never heard such cable, probably will never happen, but I doubt the sound quality is 100 time better than a regular cable
    For me, it seems to be some "audiophile elitism".....no offense to anyone though

    Look at his custom cables your looking at the pre made ones.

    He makes them custom lengthA and uses the connectors your choose. Much cheaper than what your looking at.

    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    DSkip wrote: »
    Lack of understanding due to ignorance is ok. Judging based off ignorance is not. I've had speaker cables in my rig ranging from a few bucks to $3k. They all do things differently. For what it's worth, I kept the cables that sounded best with my rig, and it just so happens you can get them for under $100 if you're lucky.

    That's like saying if someone drives an Infiniti they must have some driving elitism.
    Well, an Infiniti stays in a ratio of ~3 or 4 compared to a "basic" car...
    It was just an "honest" question: Does a 3k cable sound 30 times better than a S100 cable?
    I know it's about ear and personal preferences, but......At some point, does it make sense?
    I've read a review about music from PC, from the basic codec on the motherboard up to an expensive external DAC: ratio was 1,000. And according to the review, the listening test was very tight.....
    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,655
    French_guy wrote: »
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    How about actual quality cables at affordable prices?
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/
    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/
    Douglasconnection, affordable???? 1 x speaker cable - 3 m - at $4,300????
    I've never heard such cable, probably will never happen, but I doubt the sound quality is 100 time better than a regular cable
    For me, it seems to be some "audiophile elitism".....no offense to anyone though

    WTF are you talking about?
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/Custom-Made-Speaker-Cables_c31.htm

    Doug has quality custom cables starting under $60. But way to immediately go from insulting to ignorant in 2 posts.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    Another speaker cable thread, I wonder how long this one will last before it degrades in to a my cables are better than yours.(shaking head)

    BTW: I've got the popcorn, who's got the beer!
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    Insulting? I've read my post again, I don't believe it was insulting in anyway...
    I was looking at this on the website:
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/Furutech-Speakerflux-High-End-Speaker-Cables-FUSPFLUXSC.htm
    Ignorant? maybe, this is why I'm asking on this forum.....Does a ratio of 1,000 for speaker cables makes sense. I realize it seems to be a sensitive topic, but again, just an honest question
    I'm an engineer myself, and I do understand a price difference of 3, 4 or 5 for an AVR for example.....but I'm skeptical for speaker cables and a so huge difference
    That's it, no offense at all......
    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    gimpod wrote: »
    Another speaker cable thread, I wonder how long this one will last before it degrades in to a my cables are better than yours.(shaking head)

    BTW: I've got the popcorn, who's got the beer!
    That's the point...it's really an open question, where I just want to know if people thinks the sound quality is MUCH MUCH MUCH better with cable speakers that cost so much money.....No a competition at all.

    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    edited December 2014
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    French_guy wrote: »
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    How about actual quality cables at affordable prices?
    http://www.douglasconnection.com/
    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/
    Douglasconnection, affordable???? 1 x speaker cable - 3 m - at $4,300????
    I've never heard such cable, probably will never happen, but I doubt the sound quality is 100 time better than a regular cable
    For me, it seems to be some "audiophile elitism".....no offense to anyone though

    Look at his custom cables your looking at the pre made ones.

    He makes them custom lengthA and uses the connectors your choose. Much cheaper than what your looking at.

    yes, I see that now......
    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited December 2014
    No offense taken, If you look through most of the cable thread here you'll see that it doesn't take long before they degrade into a flaming/name calling thread and get locked. Just saying.

    And for the record I use 12 Gauge Blue Jean cables because that's what I can afford and there local. They also will make bare or terminated custom cables.
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    no problem on my side....This forum is great, i wouldn't want to be banned because of a post on a hot topic :D
    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    Does a 3k cable sound 30 times better than a S100 cable?

    It might and it might not. Regardless, that's no way to judge anything audio related.

    Try to buy cables that on the same level of the gear in your rig or whatever fits your budget, but make no mistake, cables are an integral part of any rig.

    Say you've got $10k invested in your rig, which is very easy to do. You're going to use $100.00 speaker cables? Really!?!
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  • BurrInspector
    BurrInspector Posts: 83
    French_guy wrote: »
    no problem on my side....This forum is great, i wouldn't want to be banned because of a post on a hot topic :D

    Dude the links show other cables and customs hahaha (not being a d!k).
    Speakers and other components should give you an indication for your budget on cables.
    A speaker system that costs 3-4kUSD total does not warrant 4k plus in cables imho, just buy the best cable and plugs within your budget, keep it from oxydising. Enjoy!

    In terms of diy versus whats available in your budget, how good are you at making cables?
    The guys provided some good links, easier to just purchase maybe? (Obviously not the cables that require you to sell your second kindney aswel.)
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    Again, it was not a statement, but a question.....
    Anyway, I will take a closer look at what Doug is offering within my budget
    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • BurrInspector
    BurrInspector Posts: 83
    edited December 2014
    French_guy wrote: »
    Again, it was not a statement, but a question.....
    Anyway, I will take a closer look at what Doug is offering within my budget

    Hey man dont feel insulted or think we are out to get you, we are here to help each other.
    Its always good to have different views on a topic and thats why its an open forum.
    In the end of it all the op needs to process the information and act accordingly.
    i gather some may come off as the big bad wolf but you really cant see the tone through text.
    Chill bro, let us know what you think bout the offerings on the site and maybe give us more information on your DIY options? (Type of cable etc..)
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    will do.....
    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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