sticky stuff on vintage polks
leftwinger67
Posts: 10
I was wondering what the substance is that Polk uses to get that sticky field on the speaker cones of the vintage speakers. Not sure of the modern ones, just never touched any. What I was thinking going way back in my youth I used to build balsa wood airplanes and cover them w/ modeling tissue and to stiffen them up used what was called clear dope. Problem w/ this is I think it did dry to the touch so you could paint afterwards. It's been so long I don't remember either way. Anyone know what they use and is it used so the cones do not dry out?
2chl--Adcom555~NAD1020a pre~JVC-QL200 tt~ Grado FT+1 cart~Denon 1940ci-cdp~Niles 6 selector~Samson 9 outlet surge~ DCM TF 350s~ADC 303ax~ KLH 331s-'87 Polk Audio 2Bs( dynamat, rings, 194s, VR3-xovers-gaskets,BH-5)~Signal i/c~ BJ Belden i/c~10gu BJ Belden to Polks
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BDRM--Nikko 6065 receiver~Sony NS300 cd/dvd~ JBL -G200 bookenders
H/T-Toshiba AU40''~Yamaha RX-V665-Sony ce375 5disc-YDS-Dock-I-pod-Klipsch #500 spkr set w/ 8''pwrd sub-Shure Pro 240 h/p
BDRM--Nikko 6065 receiver~Sony NS300 cd/dvd~ JBL -G200 bookenders
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Lew, if memory serves, the early drivers from the 70s were paper cones which Polk modified by hand with a special doping that made them tacky. The later vintage drivers were also paper cone, but had a plasticized coating on them, which Polk then applied their secret doping sauce to. They were called Tri-Laminate (three layers versus two for the originals). The purpose was to reduce unwanted resonances. They also improved the voice coils on the later modelsHome Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
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Dave, for unwanted resonances, that's pretty interesting that they even considered that back then. I guess it's goes along with using butyl surrounds to prolong the driver's life So it's for sure a proprietary treatment. I just thought it was a way to somehow keep the cones from drying out. We know foam rots but truthfully never heard of cone rot unless it got wet so there goes my theory.2chl--Adcom555~NAD1020a pre~JVC-QL200 tt~ Grado FT+1 cart~Denon 1940ci-cdp~Niles 6 selector~Samson 9 outlet surge~ DCM TF 350s~ADC 303ax~ KLH 331s-'87 Polk Audio 2Bs( dynamat, rings, 194s, VR3-xovers-gaskets,BH-5)~Signal i/c~ BJ Belden i/c~10gu BJ Belden to Polks
H/T-Toshiba AU40''~Yamaha RX-V665-Sony ce375 5disc-YDS-Dock-I-pod-Klipsch #500 spkr set w/ 8''pwrd sub-Shure Pro 240 h/p
BDRM--Nikko 6065 receiver~Sony NS300 cd/dvd~ JBL -G200 bookenders -
Paper cones do dry rot. Coated cones last longer. I re-cone a lot of paper/pulp cone drivers from the 50s through the 70s. Also depends on environmental conditions, humidity, direct sunlight/UV rays, how they were stored etc.
Some of the older woofers also had rolled paper voice coil formers which collapse due to dry rot.Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/