SDA SRS towers placed on marble bases. Good or bad?

Dabutcher
Dabutcher Posts: 2,597
edited July 2014 in Speakers
I currently have them on Burber carpet with two inch spikes. June was an all time record for inches of rain here. No water in our basement. But other people had it this year for the first time ever. HT is in the basement. I was going to prop them up on marble to bring them off the carpet a little just in case we get wet carpet in future. If I do this do I put original base discs back on or leave spikes? Thanks. Darryl
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,660
    edited July 2014
    I plan on putting Granite under mine and drilling little divots where my spike are just to keep them from walking or sliding off. I see no harm in what you are trying to accomplish.
  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited July 2014
    Placing the marble on top of the carpet will decouple them, which is the opposite of what the spikes do. Even though the speakers are heavy, and the marble is heavy and dense, and will crush the carpet, there will be enough flex in the carpet to decouple them.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited July 2014
    ^This^
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  • Dabutcher
    Dabutcher Posts: 2,597
    edited July 2014
    I have concrete under carpet. How about if I spiked my marble bases? Thanks for the help. D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited July 2014
    I have concrete under carpet. How about if I spiked my marble bases?

    That will work perfectly.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2014
    Why not try a maple platform with spikes instead of marble? I really have become a believer in Mapleshade's hypothesis of vibration control, and currently have 4 speakers in my HT/surround sound/spare stereo on both 4" and 2" speaker plinths.

    "Mounting your gear—amp, CD player, music server, turntable, etc.—on a really good platform transforms the sound. Our painstaking R&D tests proved that maple platforms sound warmer, clearer, punchier and more detailed than granite, slate or glass (all are edgy and bass-killing), hi-tech damped composites (very dead sounding), and myrtle or exotic hardwoods (more colored and less detailed). That’s confirmed unequivocably by more than a decade of head-to-head shootoffs by skeptical customers. Adding brass footers to drain vibration out of your gear into the maple doubles the good effect."

    "On any floor, we recommend using either our Maple Plinth or Ne Plus Ultra Speaker Base to hear the full potential of a world-class floodstanding speaker. On concrete, granite, tile, or modern engineered/plywood floors--due to the devistating effect on speaker sound, we believe these speaker bases are essential."

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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited July 2014
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Why not try a maple platform with spikes instead of marble? I really have become a believer in Mapleshade's hypothesis of vibration control, and currently have 4 speakers in my HT/surround sound/spare stereo on both 4" and 2" speaker plinths.

    "Mounting your gear—amp, CD player, music server, turntable, etc.—on a really good platform transforms the sound. Our painstaking R&D tests proved that maple platforms sound warmer, clearer, punchier and more detailed than granite, slate or glass (all are edgy and bass-killing), hi-tech damped composites (very dead sounding), and myrtle or exotic hardwoods (more colored and less detailed). That’s confirmed unequivocably by more than a decade of head-to-head shootoffs by skeptical customers. Adding brass footers to drain vibration out of your gear into the maple doubles the good effect."

    "On any floor, we recommend using either our Maple Plinth or Ne Plus Ultra Speaker Base to hear the full potential of a world-class floodstanding speaker. On concrete, granite, tile, or modern engineered/plywood floors--due to the devistating effect on speaker sound, we believe these speaker bases are essential."

    http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/departments.asp?dept=60

    My 1Cs are on spikes, set on 2" thick granite blocks (no divots needed), set on concrete.

    The bass is great, I have no complaints about the sound quality.

    Never tried maple, so I cannot compare the two "plinth" materials.
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  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,276
    edited July 2014
    My 1Cs are on spikes, set on 2" thick granite blocks (no divots needed), set on concrete.

    The bass is great, I have no complaints about the sound quality.

    Never tried maple, so I cannot compare the two "plinth" materials.

    Is there a difference in sound having the spikes sitting on the granite as opposed to sitting down on the concrete? Or is the granite more for aesthetics? For example, did you lay carpet up to the granite but not underneath the granite? Assuming there is carpet. This interests me because I'm thinking of replacing the spikes on my speakers with spikes Jesse recommended, that will penetrate my carpet and padding. I have no experience with this, so I'd rather hear from people that have done this, instead of reading what a website says the benefits are, when they are selling the product they are describing.
  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited July 2014
    Hermitism wrote: »
    Is there a difference in sound having the spikes sitting on the granite as opposed to sitting down on the concrete? Or is the granite more for aesthetics? For example, did you lay carpet up to the granite but not underneath the granite? Assuming there is carpet. This interests me because I'm thinking of replacing the spikes on my speakers with spikes Jesse recommended, that will penetrate my carpet and padding. I have no experience with this, so I'd rather hear from people that have done this, instead of reading what a website says the benefits are, when they are selling the product they are describing.

    I put the granite slabs under the speakers to ensure that the speakers would not be damaged by water. Our basement occasionally takes about 1" of water during the rainy season in New Hampshire -- 3 or 4 times in the last 17 years or so. No carpet in the vicinity for obvious reasons.

    Sound quality was improved appreciably when I added spikes to the 1Cs, which did not have stock spikes, but I did not notice any difference in sound quality between the spikes on the concrete and on the granite slabs.
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  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,276
    edited July 2014
    Ahh, I see now. Thanks for the answer. I couldn't figure out what the granite was for since you already had concrete. I thought maybe if wood created different results, then somehow there was a difference between granite and concrete. I come up with so many bad ideas and thoughts that I've started referring to them as "hermitism-isms".
  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited July 2014
    Hermitism wrote: »
    Ahh, I see now. Thanks for the answer. I couldn't figure out what the granite was for since you already had concrete. I thought maybe if wood created different results, then somehow there was a difference between granite and concrete. I come up with so many bad ideas and thoughts that I've started referring to them as "hermitism-isms".

    I used granite because -- unlike concrete pavers, for example -- it does not take water.

    And, of course, I live in "The Granite State."
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