Has Passion been lost or just found?

2»

Comments

  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by mantis
    It seems everyone is into the spec's more then how it sounds.

    I'm just trying to understand them...:rolleyes:

    hbomb
    ***WAREMTAE***
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited February 2004
    Can't wait til this thing gets here!
    Never Forget
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by PolkThug
    Can't wait til this thing gets here!





    Looks nice, but what is it????:D
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited February 2004
    Its my solution to make all my wiring decisions for me. Who needs ears when we've got all this high-tech stuff? I'll probably let it listen to my music for me while I'm doing other things, I'll save a lot of time that way.




    :eek:
    Never Forget
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by cfrizz
    Looks nice, but what is it????:D

    It's an oscillioscope.
    Expert Moron Extraordinaire

    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by Jstas
    It's an oscillioscope.

    Alec, I'll take strange equipment for 500.
    Never Forget
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by PolkThug
    Alec, I'll take strange equipment for 500.

    I'll give ya a hand with not new toy;)

    HBomb
    ***WAREMTAE***
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited February 2004
    pjdami,
    nice written post my man.

    cfrizz,
    hello....your getting my drift.What club did I join?

    TroyD,
    always posting with your boot out....nice going.Thanks for playinig.:rolleyes:

    HBombToo,
    understanding them is very cool and I feel nessary.....but there is so much more then the spec's.Making sure your system will together is fine.but you cannot determine if the product is going to sound good by reading the specs..........do you agree with that?

    PolkThug,
    everyone must walk there own path..........
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2004
    Hi Mantis. It's the NOT trying to keep up with the Joneses, or rupture our eardrums, let's just sit back & enjoy club. :D

    I swear I need a translator when I visit, cause half the time you guys are speaking another language! ;)
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited February 2004
    Cool deal
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,086
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by cfrizz
    Hi Mantis. It's the NOT trying to keep up with the Joneses, or rupture our eardrums, let's just sit back & enjoy club. :D

    I swear I need a translator when I visit, cause half the time you guys are speaking another language! ;)

    I don't think it's necessarily keeping up with the Joneses and I certainly listen to music at pretty low levels. However, I do think it's fun to play with different gear. I don't always like to listen to the same thing. I like the fact that I can swap components out of my rigs to suit my particular wants at that time. I could care less what others have or think for the most part. I think you will find that is the attitude that most have around here.


    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by pjdami


    Years past, but my interest in audio was always there. Before last year, I was content on gear that I purchased from Circuit City but everytime I listened I knew that this wasn't going to be the end. The sound didn't move me emotionally; it was just something to listen to.. you know like when you're washing dishes, cleaning up the house, or getting ready for work in the morning.

    Specs, I used to be all into that. Although a good indicator of predicted performance its the listening that matters. I own gear that has lower S/N ratio specs than other gear that I've owned (like 91 db S/N vs. over 100 db S/N) and the lower S/N ratio gear sounds much better. Just looking at the specs doesn't always tell the entire story.

    with much unfortune, i have never been happy with what i listened too;)

    at kmart i was testen tubes at about 7... now i waite for my 2 channel system to warm up. 6dj8's are awesome when warm imo.

    specs provide a guide outside of the emotional and thats what makes me tick :cool:

    HBomb
    ***WAREMTAE***
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • pjdami
    pjdami Posts: 1,894
    edited February 2004
    specs provide a guide outside of the emotional and thats what makes me tick

    I hear ya Henry. I work with specs every day at work. Product quality specs, pumps specs, SPC charts, you name it. Specs all over the place.

    I'll give you an example. This PT5 preamp I have actually has a S/N ratio of 89 db (not 91 db; I made an error above). A Yamaha receiver that I had for a while last year had a S/N ratio of 100 db. S/N ratio, I always looked at that really hard before purchasing gear. The higher the better. There are those who argue that anything above 90 db is inaudible... I don't know if I could bet the farm one way or the other with it.

    Back to this preamp I have. At first, I wasn't going to get it. 89 db S/N in today's day and age with all this technology?? I was thinking to myself man that's low. It must sound like ****! I took a chance and it was what I was looking for.

    There's a lot of different gear out there that folks own, Outlaw, Rotel, NAD, Adcom, B&K, Denon, Yamaha, Sony, etc. etc. You can listen for one to two hours at the store and think you like it. But you have to LIVE with it for a while to get to know it. It has to like your speakers and your speakers have to love it in return. Sometimes it takes me several days to decide if its good for me... something I can live with for the long haul. First impressions are always inticing, its human nature to get excited about something new. The trick is though to keep it from getting stale over the long haul. It has to provide the emotion to excite one like the first time you heard it.

    Like Troy said above, I like trying new gear out too. I want to experience different things and different sound. At some point though, it gets to be too expensive to keep swapping things out all of the time. One has to settle down with something. I'm not saying settle to just settle but settle on something that you like and is pleasing. Like this tube amp I bought a few weeks ago. Its a new toy for me now too. I can change the tubes on it to get different tones. Its cool and I like to warm her up too.

    Finally, I believe I'm happy:cool:

    p.s. I haven't tried out SACD yet:o More emotion and excitement on the horizon I'm sure.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by mantis


    HBombToo,
    understanding them is very cool and I feel nessary.....but there is so much more then the spec's.Making sure your system will together is fine.but you cannot determine if the product is going to sound good by reading the specs..........do you agree with that?


    Yes
    and
    BTW, pj you'll love SACD!!!!


    HBomb
    ***WAREMTAE***
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited February 2004
    I do think it's fun to play with different gear. I don't always like to listen to the same thing. I like the fact that I can swap components out of my rigs to suit my particular wants at that time. I could care less what others have or think for the most part. I think you will find that is the attitude that most have around here.

    So what is this a modified version of flavor of the month?
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,086
    edited February 2004
    Nice try Dan, but, no.

    See, I don't think that any one piece of gear or brand is the end all / be all. I like all kinds of gear. For the most part, my 2ch rig revolves around the Amazings / Silver 9t's / Conrad Johnson PV7....however, if I want to listen to Pink Floyd, bingo, plug in the Carver C-16 and I got Sonic Holography. Say I want to listen to, oh, Norah Jones or some Andre Previn piano jazz, bingo, LSi7's and I'll listen to that.

    I don't sit here and say, for example, Rotel, allday, allabout with, oh, Transparent. Next week, it's, B&K with Danes with Kimber or what have you. All of the gear that I have has it's strong points and weak points and I like to swap them around depending on MY tastes. I also don't presume to think that my tastes should be everyones tastes, either. I think everyone should draw thier own conclusions as to what sounds best with what without me or anyone else telling them what is best.

    Plus, all the gear is mine, I paid for it so I'll do what I please with it.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited February 2004
    BIG DUMB... YOU nailed it!!!!!

    Well said!

    HBomb
    ***WAREMTAE***
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited February 2004
    TroyD,
    See, I don't think that any one piece of gear or brand is the end all / be all.
    Nothing wrong with that........I however have found gear I feel that way.
    I don't sit here and say, for example, Rotel, allday, allabout with, oh, Transparent. Next week, it's, B&K with Danes with Kimber or what have you.
    And?????........yeah, so whats your point here?People ask for what gear I feel is good and tell them what I think.I go on personal experience not what I read.
    I also don't presume to think that my tastes should be everyones tastes, either. I think everyone should draw thier own conclusions as to what sounds best with what without me or anyone else telling them what is best.
    Nothing wrong with this except whats your point?I also think everyone should hand select there own gear.I have,not no one helps me pick out mine.I get off my **** and get out there and demo it.Not to mention I demo gear every day of the week.So are you trying to slap me or the people who I gave good advice to and are very happy with there gear?Not everyone in here gets the quality time to listen to everything or some don't know how........thats fine I beleive there is a big learning curve as there is so much to choose from.
    Plus, all the gear is mine, I paid for it so I'll do what I please with it.
    Was someone trying to tell you different???Another waste of words by our very own TroyD....way off topic.

    Troy why are you posting on this thead anyway?The topic haven't you already commented on?Or lack there of I should say.I have noticed a lack of passion around here and wanted to find out why.Not looking to get into a measuring contest with you.

    I'm not intrested in you contest.......

    I love my gear all the same.But that doesn't mean I will own it forever..........flavor or not........
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,086
    edited February 2004
    Dan, why must everything I say be about you? Why must you take everything as a personal insult? I was actually trying to address cfrizz's observations in a civil manner.

    I'm just giving my take on how I do things. It's not everyones cup of tea.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited February 2004
    Troy,
    because half of your last post was about me.Lets let it rest.

    It's completely fine doing things your own way,I actually encourage it.

    I also didn't realize that you where addressing cfrizz,my bad........carry on.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • pjdami
    pjdami Posts: 1,894
    edited February 2004
    Good to see you two getting along a little bit better lately. Both of you have so much audio experience and knowlege to share with the forum.

    I like to see everyone finding a common ground and respect for one another's opinion. That's really what an opinion is really.. an idea or process that worked for someone else that is worth a shot in one's own system. It's certainly more constructive that way and makes the forum more enjoyable.

    Let's not let our emotions get in the way;)
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2004
    Emotionless Pashion???
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter