Upcoming Led Zeppelin reissues

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  • headrottheadrott Posts: 5,428
    edited June 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    I can answer that one. The US versions do not have a plastic inner sleeve to protect the CD, so the CD rubs on the cardboard, which is causing scuffs/scratches before you ever take it out of the holder. The Japanese versions come with the plastic sleeves, so there's no damage to the disc.

    Tru Dat! :smile:
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    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


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  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,618
    edited June 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    I can answer that one. The US versions do not have a plastic inner sleeve to protect the CD, so the CD rubs on the cardboard, which is causing scuffs/scratches before you ever take it out of the holder. The Japanese versions come with the plastic sleeves, so there's no damage to the disc.
    OK thanks Jesse,thats a nice added touch.
  • nspindelnspindel Posts: 5,345
    edited June 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ok, note to self. Never listen to music right after waking up.

    So, for the last 30 minutes I've been comparing the SHM Zep I to the new 2014 remaster, the one that I said earlier was too EFFING bright. I was wrong, it's not.

    The SHM is actually louder at the same volume control level, so I level matched the 2 CD's with maximum peaks at 88dB. I used the first song, Good Times Bad Times. The 2014 has much more air and you can hear further into the recording. However, there is a slightest bit of sibilance to Plant's vocals here and there, but it's really not too bad and the bass isn't quite as deep as the 2014. Based on this one song tonight I prefer the new 2014 as the SHM seems a bit flat in comparision.

    That's my new story and I'm sticking to it.

    Forgot to say, the 2014 sound stage is bigger/wider as well.

    So what are your thoughts on II & III?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • carvcomcarvcom Posts: 240
    edited July 2014
    The only Zep vinyl I was missing was II, so I bought the re-issue last week.
    I must say I am truly impressed!
    My ears are so screwed up that records either sound good or bad, but this album sounds great!
    Now the only thing to do is replace my older copies of I & III.

    Cheers
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,265
    edited July 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    No worries, upsampled to 24/192.

    Great. Glad you are familiar with the concept. My DAC up samples to 1.5MHz and 32 bit. :smile:

    "their multi-core, ARM 9–based Sanctuary processor runs at 500Mips and is used in the Vega to upsample PCM input data to approximately 1.5MHz and 32-bit depth,"

    http://www.stereophile.com/content/auralic-vega-da-processor

    Maybe the best $3500 I have spent on music in some time. Listening to my LZ playlist now, and it is Ledelicious.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,980
    edited July 2014
    But you don't tubes in it.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,980
    edited July 2014
    nspindel wrote: »
    So what are your thoughts on II & III?

    Excellent
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • headrottheadrott Posts: 5,428
    edited July 2014
    Just listened to Led Zeppelin I again. Good Lord this sounds phenominal! The clarity, detail, stereo separation (soundstage) are fantastic! As importantly, on Led Zeppelin I, the spacing between tracks is perfect! It was not "messed around" with at all. Lastly, the frequencies are phenominally done! The high end is not exaggerated, and is (IMO) as it is on the original master. The midrange is superb, and the low end is superb. The bass is so tight it's rediculous.

    I love this remaster (Led Zeppelin I)! Go "out" and buy the Japanese version(s) now!
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,980
    edited July 2014
    ^This^

    Listening to II right now.....for the second time in a row. Amazing!!!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • headrottheadrott Posts: 5,428
    edited July 2014
    That means you gotta listen to III three times in a row Jesse. :razz:
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,265
    edited July 2014
    Glad you guys like the CDs. When you eventually move into high-res music you will be even more amazed at how well these releases sound at 96/24 vs. 44/16.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,083
    edited July 2014
    headrott wrote: »
    Just listened to Led Zeppelin I again. Good Lord this sounds phenominal! The clarity, detail, stereo separation (soundstage) are fantastic! As importantly, on Led Zeppelin I, the spacing between tracks is perfect! It was not "messed around" with at all. Lastly, the frequencies are phenominally done! The high end is not exaggerated, and is (IMO) as it is on the original master. The midrange is superb, and the low end is superb. The bass is so tight it's rediculous.

    I love this remaster (Led Zeppelin I)! Go "out" and buy the Japanese version(s) now!

    Where does one get the Japanese version of the re-issues?

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,980
    edited July 2014
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,083
    edited July 2014
    F1nut wrote: »

    That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure if there was another source.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,083
    edited July 2014
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,083
    edited July 2014
    Really, $63 to send 2 cd's to the US.

    Sorry, but that's way too rich for my blood. The stateside versions should be fine.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,980
    edited July 2014
    This one, http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/WPCR-15686

    The other is the US version without the plastic sleeves.
    Really, $63 to send 2 cd's to the US.

    It's $27 and change per deluxe CD. There are 2 CD's in the deluxe package, the original and a bonus CD. More importantly, zero scratches unlike the US versions.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • nspindelnspindel Posts: 5,345
    edited July 2014
    Hey Brock, you want the 3 deluxe cd's? I have them played once.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,083
    edited July 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    This one, http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/WPCR-15686

    The other is the US version without the plastic sleeves.



    It's $27 and change per deluxe CD. There are 2 CD's in the deluxe package, the original and a bonus CD. More importantly, zero scratches unlike the US versions.

    I see that, but when I do a shipping quote for (2) deluxe pkgs I and II (III is sold out) it says it's $63 to ship so

    $27.85 for LZ I
    $27.85 for lZ II

    plus $63 for shipping

    = $118.70 for 2 deluxe cd's.

    I'm not paying that, too much.

    H9

    P.s. Unless I'm missing something
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,083
    edited July 2014
    nspindel wrote: »
    Hey Brock, you want the 3 deluxe cd's? I have them played once.

    I saw that Neil. Will you do a little better on the price, say $35 shipped?

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • nspindelnspindel Posts: 5,345
    edited July 2014
    For you, $30.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,265
    edited July 2014
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I see that, but when I do a shipping quote for (2) deluxe pkgs I and II (III is sold out) it says it's $63 to ship so

    $27.85 for LZ I
    $27.85 for lZ II

    plus $63 for shipping

    = $118.70 for 2 deluxe cd's.

    I'm not paying that, too much.

    H9

    P.s. Unless I'm missing something

    One option that seems more reasonable is:
    BlueFox wrote: »
    LOL. Wouldn't it be less expensive to buy the CDs from Amazon, and add an order of sleeves for $4.21? :lol:

    http://www.amazon.com/100-Paper-Sleeves-Window-Flap/dp/B0019X20R8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402197885&sr=8-1&keywords=cd+sleeves+paper
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,980
    edited July 2014
    Unless I'm missing something

    You are missing something. There are multiple shipping options from EMS and FedEx to snail mail. The $63.00 quote sounds like an over night option. With either EMS and FedEx you will get it in a few days. A few times with EMS I've actually gotten delivery over night....amazing.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,980
    edited July 2014
    One option that seems more reasonable is:

    Problem is the CD's are already scratched.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • dkg999dkg999 Posts: 5,654
    edited July 2014
    My US versions don't have any scratches on them.
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,265
    edited July 2014
    I can understand from a cosmetic perspective why people expect a scratch free CD. Even if it is initially scratch free, the odds increase of acquiring a scratch when playing it multiple times. In this sense, CDs and vinyl are similar. However, unlike a turntable, a CD player will error correct any damage from a scratch, so scratches are more of a cosmetic annoyance versus an audible annoyance.

    Of course, the absence of scratches is just one more reason to go with a music server. :smile:
    Bud - Silicon Valley

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,980
    edited July 2014
    dkg999 wrote: »
    My US versions don't have any scratches on them.

    You got lucky.
    Of course, the absence of scratches is just one more reason to go with a music server.

    No scratches, not even a fingerprint on my CD/SACD's.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,265
    edited July 2014
    Anyway, scratches or no scratches, I cannot wait for the next set to be released. This is one of the few times I do not mind rebuying the same CD over and over. :smile:
    Bud - Silicon Valley

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,083
    edited July 2014
    Here's a screen print.

    CDJapan_zps116aefe2.jpg

    But I just figured it out. If you look under shipping charge calculator is says "view the order total including shipping charges". I thought the price was just for shipping.

    H9

    P.S. I will take you up on those Neil. I'll let you know as my bday is coming up and I'm not sure if someone is buying those for me. I'll know after the 30th, if you can wait.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • gimpodgimpod Posts: 1,774
    edited July 2014
    I have all the originals on vinyl and have one question

    How many versions/remasters dose one need. :confused::razz:
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