Recommend me some things please.

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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited April 2014
    I guess I got lucky. My 1500a is plugged into the wall and dead quiet.
  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,670
    edited April 2014
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Then it's just line noise or something unrelated to a problem with the amp. I have a feeling if I still had my lol sony ht receiver that had a hum coming from it, hooked on the same Tripp lite isobar, it would have quieted up to nothing too, had I had the super outlets at the time. I wish I could have a dedicated line but in an apartment there's really only so much you can do, like putting a fancy $8000 receptacle in..... Or a $3000 carbon fiber cover over it.... Prices greatly exaggerated of course,,, but still.

    So you like that apc unit? Those conditioners are very cheap, are they nIce though?

    The H15 has been a great unit.

    Voltage regulation can be adjusted and it works. You can hear it click on and off when needed. Not too often around here, mainly in the summer.

    But good protection and it handles even my 1500A very well.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited April 2014
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    What's the problem then? Like I said, I hooked it to those ethereal super outlet and the sound was almost completely gone.

    Hard to say sitting here. Take it to a tech, a quick look on a scope would tell him what the problem is.
    Appreciate the offer but I've decided I'm not in need of sacd player,

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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited April 2014
    chumlie wrote: »
    I guess I got lucky. My 1500a is plugged into the wall and dead quiet.
    I always thought it's best to run your power amp directly from the wall , especially high current power amps like the Parasounds etc.
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited April 2014
    Polkie2009 wrote: »
    I always thought it's best to run your power amp directly from the wall , especially high current power amps like the Parasounds etc.

    I've never heard that... Dad has always ran his adcom gda1 plugged into his gfp1. Call him crazy, seemed to work fine but that was before I started listening and using my ears lol
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited April 2014
    From the owner's manual:
    AC Power Connections and AC Grounding
    Before you connect the AC cord, make sure you amplifier's power switch is in the off position and the
    external DC trigger is off. If possible, plug your amplifier directly to an AC wall outlet. Do not connect
    the amplifier to the accessory AC outlet on your preamplifier or processor because the amplifier's current
    draw exceeds the ratings of most preamplifier’s power switches and power cords. If you use an external
    AC line conditioner or surge suppressor, make sure it can withstand the current draw of the amplifier.
  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited April 2014
    My amp's transformer buzzes every evening from about 10:30 to 11:45. Never loud but its there (plasma tv buzzes much louder), most other times it is completely quiet. I assume it is DC from somewhere, the line conditioner did nothing to solve it. I do not think there is anything wrong with my amp, just the large toroid is sensitive to DC.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited April 2014
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    A preamp from either Vincent, parasound or adcom. Looks like I could get parasound p3 used, a new classic 2100, a Vincent sa31 and just about any adcom used. I don't really need a tuner and really only need a few inputs that's why I listed the Vincent. Don't really need triggers because of a want for power conditioner. Not wanting to go over 700 if possible. The Vincent looks entry level? That's all I'm really going for. Don't need a whiole lot just an improvement over my Onkyo tx8555 receiver. I like the parasounds because of connections and features of course. I grew up listening to adcom.

    A power conditioner for either ps audio, furman, apc or Panamax. I'm not wanting to go over 500. I like the ps audio p300 but they're awful expensive, a quintet isn't bad at all but I'm wanting turn switch everything on from the front with it. I want a removable power cord. Furman 15pf is expensive but doable. They have some nice offerings so does Panamax and apc. Ps audio would be nice but too expensive.

    A CD player of some sort, is marantz a good choice? Probably can go 3-400.

    I'm cleaning out the old and getting some newer. Tell me if I typo anything, we're hungry.

    For a power conditioner, I have the PS Audio quintet and it's quit good. Bought it as a demo for 3 bones and change, not expensive at all. Btw, triggers are a better option than using a PC to turn stuff on. Power conditioners are best when left on all the time.

    Cd player...the Marantz suggested, you won't do much better than that for the price. If your a real cheap ****, no offense, try a used Pioneer avi 59 or 79. They are universal players but offer some great cd and sacd playback, can be had in the 150-200 buck range too.

    The pre...save a few more boxtops and get the Parasound P5. Comes with a dac too for any digital files you may want to play down the road.

    No HT ? or do you have a separate system for that ?
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    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited April 2014
    My vote for the pres mentioned would be for the Vincent. Get some tubes in the mix and see what the fuss is all about. If you dont like it you could always sell it or if you buy from Audio Adviser or Upscale Audio return it within the 30 day trial period and have them credit towards the Parasound pre of your choice. Having said that, the Anthem pre Thsmith recommended is an awesome unit. If you haven't tried tubes yet, its worth the try imho.

    As far as CD players, the Marantz 8004 or the 6005 are bargains considering both can be used as external DACs that can be used with other sources. I've seen the 8004 used on the Gon in the 500-600 range before. Personally I would pay the extra cash to gain the better features and sound quality of the 8004.

    As far as power conditioners I've used both Panamax and Monster with good results. PS Audio, Furman, Shunyata, and Belkin are also good choices. Go used and save some dough.
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited April 2014
    My amp's transformer buzzes every evening from about 10:30 to 11:45. Never loud but its there (plasma tv buzzes much louder), most other times it is completely quiet. I assume it is DC from somewhere, the line conditioner did nothing to solve it. I do not think there is anything wrong with my amp, just the large toroid is sensitive to DC.

    I hooked it to an ethereal eso1 outlet and the noise went way down.
    tonyb wrote: »
    For a power conditioner, I have the PS Audio quintet and it's quit good. Bought it as a demo for 3 bones and change, not expensive at all. Btw, triggers are a better option than using a PC to turn stuff on. Power conditioners are best when left on all the time.

    Cd player...the Marantz suggested, you won't do much better than that for the price. If your a real cheap ****, no offense, try a used Pioneer avi 59 or 79. They are universal players but offer some great cd and sacd playback, can be had in the 150-200 buck range too.

    The pre...save a few more boxtops and get the Parasound P5. Comes with a dac too for any digital files you may want to play down the road.

    No HT ? or do you have a separate system for that ?

    Ht is a separate system which I'm satisfied with. With a denon DVD 2800 for music, denon DVD 3910 for movies (stopped reading CDs) and denon aver 3805. It's a huge improvement over what I had.
    Dawgfish wrote: »
    My vote for the pres mentioned would be for the Vincent. Get some tubes in the mix and see what the fuss is all about. If you dont like it you could always sell it or if you buy from Audio Adviser or Upscale Audio return it within the 30 day trial period and have them credit towards the Parasound pre of your choice. Having said that, the Anthem pre Thsmith recommended is an awesome unit. If you haven't tried tubes yet, its worth the try imho.

    As far as CD players, the Marantz 8004 or the 6005 are bargains considering both can be used as external DACs that can be used with other sources. I've seen the 8004 used on the Gon in the 500-600 range before. Personally I would pay the extra cash to gain the better features and sound quality of the 8004.

    As far as power conditioners I've used both Panamax and Monster with good results. PS Audio, Furman, Shunyata, and Belkin are also good choices. Go used and save some dough.

    I'm leaning toward the Vincent, although I could use the 12v triggers, but it's not a big deal. Also leaning to one of those marantz players.

    Ps audio would be nice but I have yet to find anything I could use in the price range. They look nice and apparently are overbuilt lol I read a p10 weighs 70 plus pounds! Crazy. I can only assume they deliver because I've seen a lot of people wanting them online onthe various forums. shunyata is way out of my range even used. Hydra 4 I've seen for 600 and up:(.

    Furman, belkin, Panamax, and monster all have nice offerings as well for not very much, although furman elite 15 pf is hitting the ceiling price wise. It's doable.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    Would there be any drawbacks using an integrated amp for a preamp?
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    Depends on the piece really, not all are created equal. Why would you though ? Kind off a waste for the amp part...no ?
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    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    My 1500a is dead quiet plugged directly into the wall which if I remember correctly Parasound recommends. Sounds like an issue with the amp as F1 said,
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Would there be any drawbacks using an integrated amp for a preamp?
    No drawbacks, per se -- the potential 'drawback' would be the quality/performance of the integrated amplifier's preamp section. As a random but not wholly inaccurate example, many of the 1970s harman/kardon receivers and integrated amps had "pre in/main out" coupling jacks on their rear aprons; prevailing wisdom said that the power amp sections were very, very good, but the preamp sections of most of them were so-so at best.
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    chumlie wrote: »
    My 1500a is dead quiet plugged directly into the wall which if I remember correctly Parasound recommends. Sounds like an issue with the amp as F1 said,

    I hooked the amp up and listened to wish you were here on it and there was no noise coming from the speakers holding my hear right in front of the tweeter. A preamp isn't going to make that go away anyway is it?

    I'll try plugging it into the wall today, but that isn't my question.

    I see about the older integrated amps, there's not much sense in getting one because I'd have to pay in the thousands to get one that's worth the preamp section correct? I've been leaning towards a parasound p3, maybe even a p5 possibly, or adcom 815 or 715. I'm kinda off the tube deal, with vincent it's either 750 or 1500 dollars for their pres. Those solid states mentioned above have all I need and more.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • They are ugly as sin but have you looked at the SurgeX offerings? They can be found on ebay for decent prices and some models offer voltage regulation as well as not being current limited..
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  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    Eh I hooked that thing to the wall and my in walls..... Maybe I'm so OCD about it I want every bit of noise gone. It's not all that bad.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    I'm partial to my Rotel 1072 cd player. As for the hum, a three to two prong plug will usually take care of any hum that you have. I've had one first on my Parasound 1500A and now on my Sunfire 5 channel amp. No hum at all for years! Nothing like a nice cheap fix.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    So I'm shooting for a parasound p5 in black. I was thinking of getting a vincent sa-31mk but why not save $500 and get a ton of features and the parasound name and quality?

    Does Cary make good products like CD players? I've seen a few in ebay that are quite affordable....
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited November 2014
    I agree with a P5 maybe better choice then the Vincent for price and features. Except I have the Vincent SA-31 non MK, and I really love it except it has no remote - no headphone amp built in & no phono amp built in. but someday I may upgrade to the MK version with the remote as I'm just sold on the Vincent's. but only time will tell :) who knows maybe by then I get a P5 instead.
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    Yes Cary makes excellent cdp's. BTW...a black P5 is on Chicago's craigslist for 900.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    There should be a ground lift switch on the back of your Parasound 1500 amp. See if the hum goes away in one of the switch positions. I have both of my Parasound 1500's (vertical bi-amp configuration) plugged into a Panamax 5300 power conditioner, and they do not have any hum.
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    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    Hi sir, there isn't a groind lift switch on the amp. Although I've seen the switch on other of para sounds equipment.

    How are the sony cd/DVD players? I notice some on ebay can get very pricy, over $1,000 used. Just wondering. I recently replaced the laser in my 3910 and am nor sure if I'm wanting to keep it for movies and get a separate CD player or keep it for music and get another nice dvd or blu ray player. All I have are DVDs and some of the live action movies leave much to be desired on the 3910.... But the music is wonderful.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    everybody go bye bye?
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    Get an Oppo 103 for movies and good cd playback. Used around 400 bucks.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    Still shopping, probably never will get a P5, just too much right now. I was wondering about these brands though: Luxman, Classe and Conrad Johnson... All I've seen around and have read some nice things about yet some of these components used aren't very expensive at all considering. I know Luxman makes an integrated for something like $6k. crazy.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    and B&K
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier