Quick way to break-in the capacitors

Aroundthesuond
Aroundthesuond Posts: 37
edited April 2014 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
Hello everyone,
as mentioned in another thread I open a discussion concerning the break-in of the capacitors.
What are for you the fastest and most effective methods?
maybe you would also like photos
thanks to all
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,010
    edited April 2014
    Play the gear.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited April 2014
    ^^^^Best way I know of^^^^
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    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

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  • TCK
    TCK Posts: 231
    edited April 2014
    Do you need to play it non stop, or can you start & stop at will?
    What about new speakers or speakers that have been stored for a long time? Do these also need to be burnt in?
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,488
    edited April 2014
    A hammer will do it..
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,488
    edited April 2014
    Just turn it on when you want to listen to music or what ever you do.

    No need to over think it..
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited April 2014
    i put them in my smoker, round 225F, for 8 hours. Applewood makes them sound sweeter, hickory more detailed.
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  • Speedskater
    Speedskater Posts: 495
    edited April 2014
    The only capacitors that might need a break-in are large old electrolytic's that have been in storage for years.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2014
    I listen to music as I normally would as mentioned above, and play pink noise at a low volume at night/when I'm gone.
    Jake
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited April 2014
    Don't worry about it, just use equipment as you normally would.
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,488
    edited April 2014
    decal wrote: »
    Don't worry about it, just use equipment as you normally would.

    Or use a hammer like I said above, but we want video!! :-)
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  • Speedskater
    Speedskater Posts: 495
    edited April 2014
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    While I don't doubt your knowledge/credentials, our resident Ph.D. seems to believe otherwise. And has the scope shots to back it up.
    I believe that we are talking about two different situations.

    Just do a search on:

    Reforming Electrolytic Capacitors
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  • Speedskater
    Speedskater Posts: 495
    edited April 2014
    There were no links to other threads.
    All of my above posts only refer to old Electrolytic Capacitors.
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  • BKphoto
    BKphoto Posts: 409
    edited April 2014
    OP I think you spelled your name wrong....shouldn't it be Aroundthesound...?
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  • Speedskater
    Speedskater Posts: 495
    edited April 2014
    About three years ago, Doug Self wrote an article on film cap warm-up distortion.

    http://www.linearaudio.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=73&limitstart=5
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  • embrown057
    embrown057 Posts: 46
    edited April 2014
    I believe that article was concerning polyester film caps, not polypropylene.film.
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  • embrown057
    embrown057 Posts: 46
    edited April 2014
    Apples and oranges are all fruit but not the same either. It never seems to end the "how to break in film caps" or Lytic's. This always turns out to be a debate as to "there must be a better way". What better way but to just use the gear as you would. For the past 35 years I have heard this same thing and no one has come up with a sure fire way to do this. Sure you can use your "cable burner" or other more complex methods. The only way your going to get that passive to "burn-in" and form is to run the complex signal through it over a period of time. Now I'm not trying to be the barer of bad new here but it is what it is and if anyone can come forth with a real solution here I would be the first to congratulate them.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited April 2014
    Amongst the regulars of THIS forum, there is no debate... nobody ever says anything other than play the gear.

    It's just that the question keeps getting asked.
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  • embrown057
    embrown057 Posts: 46
    edited April 2014
    11TSteve:mabey there should be a warning on all forums "beware of false hope for early cap break-in". I see you have a B&K 200.2. Very nice amp and as rare as my DFA-1000/PM-95. I have had the privilege to work on one of them, I was extremely impressed with that unit. Very clean and can drive a very low impendence loan.
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  • Aroundthesuond
    Aroundthesuond Posts: 37
    edited April 2014
    my post is on PP Caps
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  • Speedskater
    Speedskater Posts: 495
    edited April 2014
    embrown057 wrote: »
    I believe that article was concerning polyester film caps, not polypropylene.film.
    Polypropylene capacitors were in the article's third paragraph and it's very last sentence.
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  • BKphoto
    BKphoto Posts: 409
    edited April 2014
    I still think OP spelled his name wrong...
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,369
    edited April 2014
    ooops
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  • Aroundthesuond
    Aroundthesuond Posts: 37
    edited April 2014
    my nick is aroundthesuond, what is the problem ???
    Instead of arguingand respond to my question in a serious way, you do problems on my nick.
    I do not understand
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2014
    Aroundthesuond wrote: »
    Hello everyone, as mentioned in another thread I open a discussion concerning the break-in of the capacitors.

    What are for you the fastest and most effective methods?

    Break-in how. Are the caps being broke in for some selection process, or just a generic any cap in any piece of gear break-in time?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,010
    edited April 2014
    I do not understand

    It's spelled sound, not suond.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Aroundthesuond
    Aroundthesuond Posts: 37
    edited April 2014
    ok, so what's the problem ?
    i'm free to choice my nick or not ?
    please answer to my question instead of nonsense questions.
    thank you
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited April 2014
    now I think it's PFB having a joke......
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  • BKphoto
    BKphoto Posts: 409
    edited April 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    It's spelled sound, not suond.

    hahaha...
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited April 2014
    Aroundthesuond wrote: »
    ok, so what's the problem ?
    i'm free to choice my nick or not ?
    please answer to my question instead of nonsense questions.
    thank you
    I'll add my two cents here. It appears English (The Queens or American English) is not your native language. If it were, we'd be better able to help you. Many Senior Members, who are very knowledgeable, have answered your question several times.
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  • embrown057
    embrown057 Posts: 46
    edited April 2014
    I believe were just having a problem with your broken English. No disrespect intended but it would be better to type out you responses on MS word then cut and past. We have a disability not understanding the "Queens English". Several very good suggestion's have been made to you regarding your dilemma with "singing caps" yet you still either ignore them or find them inadequate. Please be more specific as to what your expecting for help in this tread.
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