Quick way to break-in the capacitors
Aroundthesuond
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Hello everyone,
as mentioned in another thread I open a discussion concerning the break-in of the capacitors.
What are for you the fastest and most effective methods?
maybe you would also like photos
thanks to all
as mentioned in another thread I open a discussion concerning the break-in of the capacitors.
What are for you the fastest and most effective methods?
maybe you would also like photos
thanks to all
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Do you need to play it non stop, or can you start & stop at will?
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Just turn it on when you want to listen to music or what ever you do.
No need to over think it..Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎
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The only capacitors that might need a break-in are large old electrolytic's that have been in storage for years.
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Speedskater wrote: »The only capacitors that might need a break-in are large old electrolytic's that have been in storage for years.
While I don't doubt your knowledge/credentials, our resident Ph.D. seems to believe otherwise. And has the scope shots to back it up."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
I listen to music as I normally would as mentioned above, and play pink noise at a low volume at night/when I'm gone.
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Don't worry about it, just use equipment as you normally would.If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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Don't worry about it, just use equipment as you normally would.
Or use a hammer like I said above, but we want video!! :-)Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎
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I believe that we are talking about two different situations.While I don't doubt your knowledge/credentials, our resident Ph.D. seems to believe otherwise. And has the scope shots to back it up.
Just do a search on:
Reforming Electrolytic Capacitors -
Speedskater wrote: »I believe that we are talking about two different situations.
Just do a search on:
Reforming Electrolytic Capacitors
Per his post in the other thread, the discussion is with film capacitors (ClarityCap, etc) and not electrolytics. Which, if I am not mistaken, are effected completely differently by age..."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
There were no links to other threads.
All of my above posts only refer to old Electrolytic Capacitors. -
OP I think you spelled your name wrong....shouldn't it be Aroundthesound...?Marantz 1152 DC- Denon DP 1200, Soundsmith Carmen MKII- ADS L980 - Blue Jeans IC's
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Speedskater wrote: »There were no links to other threads.
All of my above posts only refer to old Electrolytic Capacitors.
His post prior to creating this thread was in a discussion about Clarity MR caps and other brands. All of the caps discussed in that thread were film type.
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?159845-ClarityCap-Low-series-than-MR-vs-other-brands
There is the thread I am referring to and the specific post where he mentions starting this thread to discuss break-in of those same caps is here:
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?159845-ClarityCap-Low-series-than-MR-vs-other-brands&p=2034265&viewfull=1#post2034265
I will completely agree with you on the electrolytics. But as the discussion was started to discuss methods of break in for film capacitors, I agree...we were speaking on two different topics.
No harm, no foul."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
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About three years ago, Doug Self wrote an article on film cap warm-up distortion.
http://www.linearaudio.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=41&Itemid=73&limitstart=5 -
I believe that article was concerning polyester film caps, not polypropylene.film.
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You do know that they have VERY similar dielectric properties right?"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Apples and oranges are all fruit but not the same either. It never seems to end the "how to break in film caps" or Lytic's. This always turns out to be a debate as to "there must be a better way". What better way but to just use the gear as you would. For the past 35 years I have heard this same thing and no one has come up with a sure fire way to do this. Sure you can use your "cable burner" or other more complex methods. The only way your going to get that passive to "burn-in" and form is to run the complex signal through it over a period of time. Now I'm not trying to be the barer of bad new here but it is what it is and if anyone can come forth with a real solution here I would be the first to congratulate them.
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Amongst the regulars of THIS forum, there is no debate... nobody ever says anything other than play the gear.
It's just that the question keeps getting asked.Polk Lsi9
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11TSteve:mabey there should be a warning on all forums "beware of false hope for early cap break-in". I see you have a B&K 200.2. Very nice amp and as rare as my DFA-1000/PM-95. I have had the privilege to work on one of them, I was extremely impressed with that unit. Very clean and can drive a very low impendence loan.
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my post is on PP Caps
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embrown057 wrote: »Apples and oranges are all fruit but not the same either. It never seems to end the "how to break in film caps" or Lytic's. This always turns out to be a debate as to "there must be a better way". What better way but to just use the gear as you would. For the past 35 years I have heard this same thing and no one has come up with a sure fire way to do this. Sure you can use your "cable burner" or other more complex methods. The only way your going to get that passive to "burn-in" and form is to run the complex signal through it over a period of time. Now I'm not trying to be the barer of bad new here but it is what it is and if anyone can come forth with a real solution here I would be the first to congratulate them.
I'm not arguing the validity of burn in or the well establish method of just playing the darned music. In fact, I have used the same method when doing a crossover upgrade. What evolved from the discussion was the differences that happen when "burning in" electrolytically vs polypropylene vs polyester...I only postulated that both poly types have similar enough properties that the resultant levels of and speed of burn in were too close to be a valid comparison.
End of story, burn in works. The methods used are arguable in their effect but we all tend to agree that you should just play the music and damn what the others say."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Polypropylene capacitors were in the article's third paragraph and it's very last sentence.embrown057 wrote: »I believe that article was concerning polyester film caps, not polypropylene.film. -
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my nick is aroundthesuond, what is the problem ???
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Aroundthesuond wrote: »Hello everyone, as mentioned in another thread I open a discussion concerning the break-in of the capacitors.
What are for you the fastest and most effective methods?
Break-in how. Are the caps being broke in for some selection process, or just a generic any cap in any piece of gear break-in time?Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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