Speaker jumpers - They do make a difference

BlueFox
BlueFox Posts: 15,251
edited March 2014 in 2 Channel Audio
After going though the last few years upgrading all my cables (power, interconnect, speaker) and power I finally broke down and bought two pair of speaker jumpers. My speakers, Aerial Acoustic 7T, have nice, solid brass jumpers, and, to be honest, I really couldn't imagine a speaker jumper making much difference.

Well, once again, the real world makes a mockery of my preconceived ideas. As soon as I turned the amps on after replacing the jumpers I knew it was different. I had paused an Elgar Cello Concerto while changing, and upon resumption it appeared to be a bit louder. As I listened to it I noticed the cello would seem to move closer to the left speaker, and then come back a tad to the right. It was if the player would lean over, and then go back upright.

As they have burnt in, the soundstage is even better defined, and nuances such as note decay are longer. The over all effect is scary in its new found detail and clarity. How can this short piece of wire, which is about 4" longer than the jumpers, make this big of a difference? I guess based on my past experience with other cables I should have expected this, but I am still amazed at the improvement. I have a new pair of speakers, and they are already broke in. :smile:

Jumpers: Shunyata VTX-11

http://www.shunyata.com/index.php/our-products/signal-cables/speaker-cables/400-ref-vtx11-jumper
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,221
    edited March 2014
    Blue as much time money and effort you have put into your rig and the cheapest thing you could have replaced is the jumpers....shame, shame, shame....you should know what the last 3-letters in brass spells

    Cheers dude...and as always enjoy ;)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,313
    edited March 2014
    Welcome to the Jumper Club :cool:

    I've been using MIT Magnum jumpers on my SDA's for years. They made an improvement even a deaf man could hear. About a year ago I installed MIT Shotgun jumpers on the RTiA7's and A6 in the HT rig and once again the improvement was not subtle, knocked that slightly hot top end down nicely.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    Welcome to the Jumper Club :cool:

    I've been using MIT Magnum jumpers on my SDA's for years. They made an improvement even a deaf man could hear. About a year ago I installed MIT Shotgun jumpers on the RTiA7's and A6 in the HT rig and once again the improvement was not subtle, knocked that slightly hot top end down nicely.

    Thanks. Glad to be here. I'm already thinking of an upgrade, and move these to the HT/Surround system.

    DSkip wrote: »
    I'm shocked you didn't go shunyata.... Oh wait.

    So far, each purchase has been a big success. Someday they will have a competitor, but not now.
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Blue as much time money and effort you have put into your rig and the cheapest thing you could have replaced is the jumpers....shame, shame, shame....you should know what the last 3-letters in brass spells

    Cheers dude...and as always enjoy ;)


    I feel the same way. :smile: I just didn't think it would be a big deal.

    Thanks.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,896
    edited March 2014
    I purchased some jps labs jumpers and yes they do make a difference.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,313
    edited March 2014
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Someday they will have a competitor, but not now.

    That's a laugh.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2014
    That's a laugh.

    :smile:

    I am really enjoying this upgrade. It's getting better and better.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited March 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    That's a laugh.

    More of a slight chuckle laugh, or more of a complete laugh your A$$ off laugh Jesse? :smile:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,945
    edited March 2014
    Me likey those jumpers Fox. Except I can't seem to find a price on them. If you don't mind me asking, where did you snag 'em.

    Jess, I can't find the MIT Magnum jumpers either.

    Congrats anyway, and like others said....that should have been the first part in your cable upgrades.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2014
    The Cable Company is where I been buying cables for the last year or so. However, they only have two selections at this time. I ordered the Reference VTX model, and received the VTX-11 jumpers. Looking at Shunyata's site there is also a VTX-9 model, which appears even better. I will check on Monday and find out why this is not listed for sale. I will probably get the VTX-9, and move the VTX-11 to the surround system's fronts.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2014
    Let's see if attachments work correctly. Apparently not.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,592
    edited March 2014
    I prefer to use the "integrated" jumper concept. The last pair of wires that I built (with Golden Strata wire) were similar to what Synergistic Research offers here:

    Integrated Frequency Transmission

    That way, the jumper is the same cable material as the speaker wire, and there is one less connection because the jumper shares the first spade/banana.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,578
    edited March 2014
    billbillw wrote: »
    I prefer to use the "integrated" jumper concept. The last pair of wires that I built (with Golden Strata wire) were similar to what Synergistic Research offers here:

    Integrated Frequency Transmission

    That way, the jumper is the same cable material as the speaker wire, and there is one less connection because the jumper shares the first spade/banana.

    Its interesting they think its better than bi-wiring, which is what I have had all my Kimber Kable 8VS setup as (because they didnt offer 8VS jumpers till earlier this year, bastages).....

    I wonder why they think that their method of bi-wiring is any different than just a standard bi-wire. From the pictures it looks like their jumper portion is smaller than the initial wire so it still goes from a larger gauge down to a smaller one, which is pretty much what my Kimbers do.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,592
    edited March 2014
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Its interesting they think its better than bi-wiring, which is what I have had all my Kimber Kable 8VS setup as (because they didnt offer 8VS jumpers till earlier this year, bastages).....

    I wonder why they think that their method of bi-wiring is any different than just a standard bi-wire. From the pictures it looks like their jumper portion is smaller than the initial wire so it still goes from a larger gauge down to a smaller one, which is pretty much what my Kimbers do.

    Not sure if I agree that Synergistic's approach is better than other types of bi-wire, but in my case, I wanted shotgun type cable runs and jumpers, so I just integrated the jumper in a manner like they show in the photo. In my case, I used identical runs for the jumper portion, but I removed the outer jacket to make it smaller.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,233
    edited March 2014
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Let's see if attachments work correctly.

    you need one set of nanners fer sure:wink:
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2014
    You know, I thought the exact same thing. However, I have never used banana connectors before. Plus there have been posts here where people say that are too loose, or they are to tight, or they break the posts trying to get the connector out. Spades are a big hassle, but once they are on then you only need to periodically tighten the connector every once in a while.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited March 2014
    If I didn't do reviews I'd go with spades. But since I do life is much easier with banana plugs.
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