2014 Camaro Z/28
mantis
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Whats up everyone?
For all you Camaro fans have you heard about the new Z/28? It's gonna go for a whopping 75k with like 1 option for like 1200 bucks. For some reason this isn't setting in with me. When did Camaros get so far out of wack? Even the ZL1 is starting at 57k and you easily can make it 60k with no issues at all.
For me IF I decide to buy a Camaro , I will not spend that kind of money on it. I'd rather get a Beautiful Audi RS5 and go from there.Hell why not get a Corvette at this point? The New Stingray starts at 51k. I don't get it.
Someone help me understand this aggressive pricing. Not to mention a SS can be had for around 34k nicely equipped. Whats my motivation? Personally most Camaro guys are self tuners. Who who owns a Camaro doesn't want to spend a weekend tuning it? Going to the performance parts store and putting together a cool **** aftermarket package to make it great , your way? Now GM just builds them ready to go? wheres the fun in that?
Someone school me please.
For all you Camaro fans have you heard about the new Z/28? It's gonna go for a whopping 75k with like 1 option for like 1200 bucks. For some reason this isn't setting in with me. When did Camaros get so far out of wack? Even the ZL1 is starting at 57k and you easily can make it 60k with no issues at all.
For me IF I decide to buy a Camaro , I will not spend that kind of money on it. I'd rather get a Beautiful Audi RS5 and go from there.Hell why not get a Corvette at this point? The New Stingray starts at 51k. I don't get it.
Someone help me understand this aggressive pricing. Not to mention a SS can be had for around 34k nicely equipped. Whats my motivation? Personally most Camaro guys are self tuners. Who who owns a Camaro doesn't want to spend a weekend tuning it? Going to the performance parts store and putting together a cool **** aftermarket package to make it great , your way? Now GM just builds them ready to go? wheres the fun in that?
Someone school me please.
Dan
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I don't understand the pricing either... looks to me like it's all about soaking the baby-boomers for all the coin they can get.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Does not compute. Seems like going after market would be a cheaper or would rather by from another list of $75k cars loaded.2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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When the current Camaro generation came out, they were tacking on $5-10k OVER sticker.
They don't seem to remember the 60's at all. Offer a car reasonably priced to young people
with some sport, and it will sell. Adding the V8 to it makes it a $38k car. Adding a few bells and whistles
makes it $$$$$. No wonder the 20 somethings are buying ricers."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
That's their business model....building a 75k Camaro ? Looks like we'll be bailing them out yet again.HT SYSTEM-
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My wife and I were talking about the new Camaro's the other day. We both agreed there were not near as many cruising the streets as we thought there would be, when the new models first came out. Now I know why! $75K ????? You can get a Mustang Shelby GT 500 for $54,650! Tony, I think you hit the nail on the head! We'll be bailing them out again!!Sunfire Theater Grand IV
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Bailing them out?? LOL!!! Every Z/28 will sell quicker then they can build them, and they won't mass produce them, just like the new Copo Camaro's they only build so many a year, and the Copo's sold out before they ever built them, and this is a car that is built strickly for the drag strip, no vin#..
And just so you know the Camaro has out sold the Mustang every year since 2009, they are building these cars because they do sell, so I doubt you have to worry about bailing them out..
The Z/28 is built for the track it's not like the last generation Z28, There is a big difference in a Z/28 and a Z28 yes the slash makes the difference. The Z/28 has not been on a Camaro since the late 60's early 70's.. yes you can drive the new Z/28 on the street if you wanted but it is built for the track just as the original Z/28 was in the late 60's..
The new Corvette Stingray is ok but I would take a 6th Gen ZR1 over it...
Do some research the new Z/28 is not the Z28... -
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This fit's this hobby as well... ;-)
Can fit just about anything. Most things these days are exploited to the extreme to part fools with their money. Nothing new there.
Still, a 75k Camaro ? Must mean a 100k GTO is in the works too. Who's buying these high priced toys anyway ? I saw Porsche had a record sales year also.
Camaro used to be a working man's sports car, along with GTO, Mustangs, Corvettes. Maybe somehow that definition of "working man" has changed to GM leadership ?HT SYSTEM-
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Can fit just about anything. Most things these days are exploited to the extreme to part fools with their money. Nothing new there.
Still, a 75k Camaro ? Must mean a 100k GTO is in the works too. Who's buying these high priced toys anyway ? I saw Porsche had a record sales year also.
Camaro used to be a working man's sports car, along with GTO, Mustangs, Corvettes. Maybe somehow that definition of "working man" has changed to GM leadership ?
Agreed, but not all Camaro's cost 75k, just as all Corvettes don't cost 110-125k, a new V6 Camaro can cost 25-30k just as a V8 SS/RS can cost betwwen 38-45k all depending on options of course..
There is a Camaro that fits almost all wallets..
Mine is a 2SS/RS V8 400HP, Mine was 44k out the door..
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The typical daily driver is $25K to 30 and there are a few econocars down to the 15 range. Given that it seems to me a muscle car should be 30 to 45. Even so, I just can't get behind spending that much for anything that dumps its value as quickly as a car unless money is no issue. 75 for a camaro? No freakin way. Get a 2 yr old ZR1 for 70
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michael1947 wrote: »I drove a COPO, my brother's. Hot car, just point it and hang on. To match his new hot rod I got a new Plug-in Pruis...just point it and wait.
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check out what this car did on the Nurburging.
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Being born in Detroit in 1966, I know that the Z/28 is a track car. Not sure if some are forgetting that?
Hell yes, $75K is a lot of money, but how much is a good price for a limited edition, ground pounding track ready Beast that can compete at a high level? Hell, the tires on the car cost about $2500-$3000 alone. Dropping seconds off lap times is not easy and takes time and money. High performance these days cost...even if one were to take a stock Camaro and tune it, the cost won't be cheap or what the average twenty something can afford.
These cars are not priced for the young....yes, they want the import tuners...but even the Subaru Impreza WRX STI that they all want is $40K loaded!
The 60's were great years for the young street/track enthusiast but those days are gone. Myself, I can't afford a $75K track racer, but I understand that these cars are not going to be priced just a few thousand more than the next fasted thing (ZL1) in the lineup.
Myself, I REALLY like the new Impala and would love a loaded LTZ....but $40K is too much for a Chevy right? Well, I'll wait a couple of years and find a used one. My aging '02 Chrysler 300M Special had a $33K sticker when I test drove it. But that was too much at the time....so I waited until '06 and bought a used one for just under $14K w/47K miles on it. The reality is, with the increasing high cost of new cars, I doubt that I will ever buy one unless it is one that I can get a year end close out deal on....then maybe?2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2 -
Being born in Detroit in 1966, I know that the Z/28 is a track car. Not sure if some are forgetting that?
Hell yes, $75K is a lot of money, but how much is a good price for a limited edition, ground pounding track ready Beast that can compete at a high level? Hell, the tires on the car cost about $2500-$3000 alone. Dropping seconds off lap times is not easy and takes time and money. High performance these days cost...even if one were to take a stock Camaro and tune it, the cost won't be cheap or what the average twenty something can afford.
These cars are not priced for the young....yes, they want the import tuners...but even the Subaru Impreza WRX STI that they all want is $40K loaded!
The 60's were great years for the young street/track enthusiast but those days are gone. Myself, I can't afford a $75K track racer, but I understand that these cars are not going to be priced just a few thousand more than the next fasted thing (ZL1) in the lineup.
Myself, I REALLY like the new Impala and would love a loaded LTZ....but $40K is too much for a Chevy right? Well, I'll wait a couple of years and find a used one. My aging '02 Chrysler 300M Special had a $33K sticker but I bought it for just under $14K w/47K miles on it. The reality is, with the increasing high cost of new cars, I doubt that I will ever buy one unless it is one that I can get a year end close out deal on....then maybe?2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2 -
Being born in Detroit in 1966, I know that the Z/28 is a track car. Not sure if some are forgetting that?
They are forgetting that, or just don't know that there is a difference in a Z/28 and a Z28, but that's because GM used the name Z28 in the other gens, and most don't know the history of the real Z/28..