Which way is our music going Today
boston1450
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As i sit here & listening to ''Take it to the Limit''from the Eagles-i wonder where music is going Today? I turn on the radio & say darn Shut that off QUICK. Did my grandpa think the same about my music? - i ponder!! Am i just gettin old? Is this just me,i wonder? :eyes boinking out scratching my head:
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The funny thing is, I've always___ loved Big Band Swing , it appeals to people of all__ ages, probably always will.
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boston1450 wrote: »As i sit here & listening to ''Take it to the Limit''from the Eagles-i wonder where music is going Today? I turn on the radio & say darn Shut that off QUICK. Did my grandpa think the same about my music? - i ponder!! Am i just gettin old? Is this just me,i wonder? :eyes boinking out scratching my head:
The "radio" not very often especially with all the options available iPod etc. Very little that's introduced to me now do I feel is worth listening to. My son (28) and my daughter (23) finally gave up and proclaimed that "there's no help for me". I enjoy the music from my youth that being the 60's and 70's. I'm still discovering gems all the time from the 60's/70's. To each is own. :cheesygrin:Did my grandpa think the same about my music?
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Polkie2009 wrote: »The funny thing is, I've always___ loved Big Band Swing , it appeals to people of all__ ages, probably always will.
There are people out there that can help you with your troub...wait....I kind of like that stuff too!!
Lots of the older stuff is so well recorded (compared to today), how can you not enjoy it?? Just natural sounding instruments instead of in your face blastin noise!
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I have to agree with the crappy way music is recorded now makes almost anything unlistenable, but you can still find some new music that still sounds pretty good. Open up some new horizons, my step-daughter can still find some new music that I can listen to.Home Theater
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Great questions, wondered myself what music will be like in 20-30 years.
I know very few people have ever liked the music one or especially two or more generations removed.
I truly believe the junk out there is so much worse these days, not because the very young listen, but it seems many people never grow past it.
Add to it the marketing, turning people into drones, just waiting for whatever is fed to them(always around, but they have perfected it these days), i dont hold a lot of hope for another Dylan, or Lennon=Mccartney emerging.
The only hope is the tremendous availability of any song, group, genre, at your fingertips with technology, but how many will have playback capability that promotes appreciation of the sound coming out?
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FM? College stations only! And even then?
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Well..I could go on about this...most new Rock isn't new...it has all been done before,add lack of talent,lousy production and even worse composition and there you have it! It's not the fact that we are getting older,it's the fact that the bar has been set so high in previous decades...Remember when an artist came up with an album in which damn near every cut was killer? And you couldn't wait for the next release? Now you will be lucky to find one! It's been the demise of the industry and it's sad!
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I'll have to disagree with many of you. There is good music and really good bands out there. I think Ceremonials by Florence and the Machine is one of the best albums that I have heard. Not being an audiophile, I can't comment on what is lacking or what have you on the mixing and so forth, but it is a really good album. There are also some really good bands out there. Just off the top of my head, Kings of Leon, Foo Fighters, and Muse just to name a few.
Don't get me wrong, I like older music also. The last CD I purchased was ? and the Mysterians "Cameo Parkway. These tracks were recorded in the mid 60's, and all but 2 in mono. These guys were before my time, but I've always liked "96 Tears", so thought I'd give it a shot. Different, but a pretty good album.
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The hard part is finding new music. For me, the radio is useless since around here it is mainly classic rock, which I have heard 10 million times to many.
But there is a solution, or many solutions. The solution I will be using is iTunes Radio, which came with IOS 7. I already bought a blues album by Magic Sam after hearing a song on my phone while experimenting with it. What I am doing now is ordering an iPad Mini, and then take my first iPad, hook it up to the pre-amp, and use it to explore new music.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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There have been the McCartney's and Dillon's just in different genres. You won't get that in rock because it was a new genre when they came out. And yes the reason you don't like new music is because you are old as am I. This is not a new phenomena. My parents hated my music it is only normal for me to hate the music of kids today. Although, my mother in her elder years really liked my music.Modwright SWL 9.0 SE (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC with Oyaide 004 terminations)
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Timely thread.
I was just driving home when "Welcome to the Jungle" came on the radio. That was high school for me and I loved it, but as I was listening tonight with my 10 year old son in the car I thought, "My parents must have thought the same thing about this that I think my about my (16 year old) daughter's music."
I'd say yes, your grandpa (and probably your pa) felt just like you do.
Although, there is plenty of new music that I do like.Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden -
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still plenty of good music being produced - it may depend on what type of music one likes.
A coupla fairly random examples.
http://aoifeodonovan.com/
http://www.ilovelucius.com/
Eagles?! C'mon, we're talkin' dinosaur music. I mean, I like the Eagles... but we're talkin' nostalgia. I listened to them in high school (and I am effing old). Personally, I'd never put them in the top echelon of pop music, but de gustibus non est dispudantum and all that... the OP would probably react to my faves the same way.
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BlueFox, check out an Apple TV to use with your iPad for exploring music. Wireless streaming and easy browsing works great, I use this combo all the time when looking for something new to try.Home Theater
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mhardy6647 wrote: »still plenty of good music being produced - it may depend on what type of music one likes.
A coupla fairly random examples.
http://aoifeodonovan.com/
http://www.ilovelucius.com/
Eagles?! C'mon, we're talkin' dinosaur music. I mean, I like the Eagles... but we're talkin' nostalgia. I listened to them in high school (and I am effing old). Personally, I'd never put them in the top echelon of pop music, but de gustibus non est dispudantum and all that... the OP would probably react to my faves the same way.
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Who cares how old the music is. As long as it's good music it'll always be timeless and will be listened to for generations to come.
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So, yes, the generation gap is an ageless problem (pun severely intended). The parents felt the same way about Elvis and Chuck and Little Richard 'way back when.
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Where have all the good bands gone? They don't make them anymore. Now it's lets pump out lots of crap charge people tons to watch our shows.
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I guess this thread would be the wrong place to ask: "What's your favorite Katy Perry song?"
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I have turned to alot of Country in the past few years---which for a city boy is saying something. Not much in the pop/rock category appeals to me lately. "Electronica" is right up there with Disco, which is to say, it sucks. I listen to a huge variety of music, with Rock & Jazz probably my most listened to music.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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scottyboy76 wrote: »Great questions, wondered myself what music will be like in 20-30 years.
No worries the Rolling Stones will still be touring...........with a new album -
No worries the Rolling Stones will still be touring...........with a new album
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I have turned to alot of Country in the past few years---which for a city boy is saying something. Not much in the pop/rock category appeals to me lately. "Electronica" is right up there with Disco, which is to say, it sucks. I listen to a huge variety of music, with Rock & Jazz probably my most listened to music...
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What, no love for Eminem's new album? I still remember my Dad yelling "Turn off that Beatles music!" when I was listening to Electric Ladyland before school every day.
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There is still good music out there. Its just harder to find and might not be the type you like. I personally am enjoying electronic music because honestly at this point most music out there the lyrics suck anyway (Lets write a song about how many years old I am, about every boyfriend I ever had, lets talk about b**hes and h**s, look at my big ring, my fancy car, etc). Electronic at least all that matters is the actual music, and for the most part they dont kill the mastering of it. It may be bass heavy, but thats my thing (gansta rap right Dave ). Still can give me goosebumps and gets me into the music.
I believe a larger issue now is that since you can buy one or two or three songs individually, most people stopped buying full albums. Many times I listen to a full CD and am like, huh, always skipped that song, but its pretty good. Many kids now dont get that. They use the skip button to judiciously and as such miss out on good stuff. That or they just buy the song on the radio and never hear the rest.
When LP's were still out, and same with 8 tracks, you couldn't buy one song, you had to buy the entire album. That gave artists a incentive to make a good entire album. Now if I have one song that I know will rack up 1 million downloads, why not throw out a bunch of crappy ones that maybe hit 100,000 downloads with it.
So while being able to purchase that one good song off an entire album is nice, it also gives less incentive to really make a masterpiece albumn start to finish."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
FM? College stations only! And even then?
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Why? Because that's where the "young" play the music they are into, some is OLD, a lot is NEW and it's a great place to sample the NEW because they spend so much time on the web that they KNOW all the current trends. Saves "you" a lot of work!
Is there great music today? You bet! And a LOT of it is very much influenced by all that old stuff that we listened to ages ago. But there are new genres as well, like rap and the like. And even that "samples" old stuff?
We're in a period of musical "fusion" that presents a lot of possibilities because it "embraces" not rejects what came before it. Now you want to talk about the day the music died look no further than the '80s (how did we ever live through that, and thank god that's over--even then there were a few worth listening to, a very very very few!). My sympathies to those of you whose formative years were the '80s. I feel for your "loss"! There is nothing less tolerable than '80s radio shows? But what should one expect from the epoch of yuppies, gentrification, increased homelessness, union busting and extravagant displays of wealth, etc. A vapid moment in our history whose music laid bare its superficiality.
My students's musical tastes are often in sync with mine. And there's a lot of history between us! My daughter's generation listens to the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and the like. But also to their own music.
As for top POP. When, if ever, was most of that stuff "we" listened to or "bought"? Most pop in most periods is NOT memorable. There are exceptions, of course!
The most surprising thing is just HOW close the generations can be to each other these days. You and your children, if they have good taste, are really not that far apart. And it's a wonderful time where we can share our favorites with our kids and they can often introduce us to some quality "new" stuff!
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When LP's were still out, and same with 8 tracks, you couldn't buy one song, you had to buy the entire album. That gave artists a incentive to make a good entire album. Now if I have one song that I know will rack up 1 million downloads, why not throw out a bunch of crappy ones that maybe hit 100,000 downloads with it...
They had these things called 45s. 7" singles. Usually two songs, not one, but effectively one song for most, because the B-side really was a "B side". There were occasionally two-sided hits (the Beatles, e.g., has several) but the record companies didn't like two-sided hits, as they sold half as many records.
Before the era of the 45, the early rock hits were on 10" 78s (well into the 1950s).
By the Disco era and into the 1980s, they had 12" singles, too (oh, and cassette singles, too).
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mhardy6647 wrote: »They had these things called 45s. 7" singles. Usually two songs, not one, but effectively one song for most, because the B-side really was a "B side". There were occasionally two-sided hits (the Beatles, e.g., has several) but the record companies didn't like two-sided hits, as they sold half as many records.
Before the era of the 45, the early rock hits were on 10" 78s (well into the 1950s).
By the Disco era and into the 1980s, they had 12" singles, too (oh, and cassette singles, too).
For several decades, the singles chart was the currency of the medium.
LOL... guess I am showing my age :redface:"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Its cool to see the various responses. I listen to kexp college radio for the most part for fm. Last music purchase was The Who-Tommy on sacd. I listen to the whole album/CD/file most of the time. I listen to lps, 45s, 78s, cds, sacds, cassettes, files, thumdrives, sd cards, hi res downloads, and fm. Right now we are in pomano beach listening to pop fm in the car. I am very sick of hearing Takin it easy! But bought the "latest" from Hendrix. Most people want to be stuck in their late teens. Good times?Main system: Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 w/ Pioneer 42" plazma-> Polk LSiM 703 w/Tivo, Marantz tuner, BRPTT: Nothingham Spacedeck-> Pioneer PL L1000 linear arm-> Soundsmith DL 103R-> SUT->Bottlehead ErosDigital: I3 PC w/ Jriver playing flac -> Sonore Ultrarendu -> Twisted Pair Audio ESS 9028 w/ Mercury IVY Vinyl rips: ESI Juli@24/192-> i3 PC server