old silver domes?

leftwinger57

Since I'm finally getting the RDO-194s what do you do w/ the old SL2000s? Do I just sh&t can them, list them on C/L or keep them for some sort of back up like a qb trying to get into the game but the new dude never gets hurt,but you never know.
If listing how much for a set of 26 y/o tweeters that do work.Maybe at the end I could offer on the Forum For Sale side a freebee pkge of the stuff that I will not have any more need for like the Dynamat Extreme, Black Hole-5, and the for mentioned tweeters.

Faustin

Good question. I am sitting on a pair of sl2000's and sl1000's . Will have a pair of MW 6502's shortly and a pair of Peerless clones I bought new earlier in the year and am currently not using. Have to keep things out of sight so my wife doesn't give me a hard time. Easier to keep that stuff on the down low then complete speakers and amplifiers.

dhart86

[QUOTE=Faustin;1980783 Will have a pair of MW 6502's shortly and a pair of Peerless clones I bought new earlier in the year and am currently not using.

Faustin, what do you think of the peerless clone tweeters?

PolkieMan

There is some people that will insist on using the exact tweeters that the speaker came with.
I had a person on Amazon give be a hard time for the upgrades that we all here do.
He insisted that they no longer were the original Polk speakers by design but something
much less valuable like put a 427 in a 55 Chevy.
Those are your buyers and Ebay will probably give you more exposure that any place else.
You should be able to get $25-$30 each for them.

Nightfall

dhart86 wrote: »

Faustin, what do you think of the peerless clone tweeters?

I second this question.

PolkieMan

okay...... I third....+ provide buying link please

Nightfall wrote: »

I second this question.

Faustin

I like the Peerless clones. I probably cannot "hear" as well as I did 35 years ago, but to me they sound very good. I had them in my 10a's while I searched for a good pair of Denmark Peerless tweeters. Found them last month so I swapped them out so my 10's would have original drivers. Also had the clones in my RTA 12c's after the crossovers were rebuilt but have since swapped them out for RDO 194's. I think for the money they are a great alternative when you have to deal with a bad Peerless. They can be found at Midwest Speaker. www.midwestspeaker.com I did have one go out about a month after I bought them and they promptly sent me a new one. I think I paid around $110 for the pair including shipping.

Faustin

Oh and by the way.......this is turning into a sick obsession. Searching for vintage stereo gear on a daily basis.

PolkieMan

Is this them?

http://w.mawebcenters.com/midwestspeaker/ecommerce/home-audio/tweeters/mw-audio-mt-4115-1-inch-dome-tweeter.html

Faustin

Yes sir!! As they state....available in 4 or 8 ohm.

Nightfall

The concern I have with all 6 of my Peerless tweeters is if the ferrofluid is dried up or not. I'm wondering if there would be a sonic benefit to replacing all of them with the MW clone.

djf

leftwinger57 wrote: »

Since I'm finally getting the RDO-194s what do you do w/ the old SL2000s? Do I just sh&t can them, list them on C/L or keep them for some sort of back up like a qb trying to get into the game but the new dude never gets hurt,but you never know.
If listing how much for a set of 26 y/o tweeters that do work.Maybe at the end I could offer on the Forum For Sale side a freebee pkge of the stuff that I will not have any more need for like the Dynamat Extreme, Black Hole-5, and the for mentioned tweeters.

Save two of them.

The reason being one day, you might lose one or more of the 194's.

Many here will say that's a crazy idea. All the whining, moaning, and general female dog attitude I've heard about the SL2000's hurts my ears way more than the tweaters ever did. You'd think most of the persons browsing the forum were dobermans or something.

Yes, there is a slight resonance at about the 13KHZ range for the SL200's. But if you can dig up the schematics and frequency responses, you will find that at least in the original SDA-SRS's (I am a proud owner!!) DID NOT HAVE a flat tweeter response. IIRC, the third tweeter down from the top are the oneswired to do the highest, point source frequency response.

Good luck!

westmassguy

5db resonance peak at 13KHz is slight?

cnh

djf wrote: »

Save two of them.

The reason being one day, you might lose one or more of the 194's.

Many here will say that's a crazy idea. All the whining, moaning, and general female dog attitude I've heard about the SL2000's hurts my ears way more than the tweaters ever did. You'd think most of the persons browsing the forum were dobermans or something.

Yes, there is a slight resonance at about the 13KHZ range for the SL200's. But if you can dig up the schematics and frequency responses, you will find that at least in the original SDA-SRS's (I am a proud owner!!) DID NOT HAVE a flat tweeter response. IIRC, the third tweeter down from the top are the oneswired to do the highest, point source frequency response.

Good luck!

Definitely true. I can barely hear 14Khz and I'm sure in 5-10 years 13Khz will be my ceiling. And after that? I have some Monitor 7s with the nasty SL2000s in there. Honestly? I can't hear anything odd at 13Khz, sounds fine. I'm sure they'd sound better with the replacements. But without A-B-ing I'd never know?

cnh

bigaltx24

Here's what I did with a pair.

djf

westmassguy wrote: »

5db resonance peak at 13KHz is slight?

No, actually, 5DB can be quite significant, I can do that with my equalizer and USUALLY hear the difference easily.

Years ago I burned a disk with 1 to 12 KHZ 30 second signals.

I can BARELY hear 12, even if I boost the volume and stand directly in front of my SDA's like 3 feet.

My points are that for alot of folks, 13KHZ sounds might not even be heard. And even beyond that, there are only one of the four tweeters in the SDA setup even wired to do above I think its 10K or so.

So for the lowest frequency range tweeters, the SL2000's would work - at least until he got suitable replacements.

Now I know on another thread I mentioned a new DVD player I just got, I am somewhat amazed by the better definition of sounds/music from CDs and DVDs that I play all the time. Much better definition. I can hear the mistakes they made during recording (saturation, mixing errors) much better than my old player.

Well, it's digital, so how can that be?

True. It is digital. And there are digital/analog converters in there that age over time.

My point here? There are many, many, many other things that effect the sound.

I like music and love listening to it... so do my neighbors... ask them! ;-)

If I didn't like it so much, I wouldn't have spent over $3000 in 1986 for these monsters. And I would not have bought the very first CD player I ever listened to a year or so later at over 700 bucks a pop. And I wouldn't have a Bang-Olufson turntable that hopefully I never need a replacement stylus for because a good one would be hand made and run over 500 bucks.

Music/vid relaxes me. It also peps me up.

Regards.
DJF

If it stresses me out, what's the point?

westmassguy

My hearing tops out at 14-15 KHz, so being at the limit of my hearing range, that 13 KHz peak was very irritating. When I received my first pair of 194s, the difference in sound and lack of listening fatigue was immediate, the 198s even more so.

TennMan

If anyone wants to do a very basic hearing test you can click here. It will give you an idea if you have any big problems. You will need a good set of headphones.

westmassguy

TennMan wrote: »

If anyone wants to do a very basic hearing test you can click here. It will give you an idea if you have any big problems. You will need a good set of headphones.

Excellent Ronnie

MAD

Ok answer me this,

With my sda srs 2.3 running of off a solid state amp, I could tell the tweeters were a bit different, they sounded a bit harsh but still enjoyable. I did however experience listener fatigue after a while.

Now I am running them off of a rivera hammer 320 tube amp (usually in triode mode 80wpc, but sometimes pentode mode at 160wpc), and they have a wonderful realistic sound so much so that I got home around 11pm, went to listen to one song and ended up going to bed at 4am.
It just sounds real and the listener fatigue is gone. Am I just falling in love with tube amps? I could finally listen to cds as I found often to bright and harsh before, now they sound perfect.

I have tested my hearing on one of those iPod apps through headphones, speakers etc and I can hear to about 17500 hz.

cnh

You must be either under 40 or in your 40s with above 40 class hearing. And yes, TUBES make a BIG difference with those speakers!

cnh

NJPOLKER

Your hearing will improve when you replace the 2000's with RDO's

MAD

cnh, I'm 31…. is that bad for my upper limit at that age.

NJPOLKER, are you saying the sound will improve or are the sl2000 somehow damaging my ears?

NJPOLKER

MAD wrote: »

cnh, I'm 31…. is that bad for my upper limit at that age.

NJPOLKER, are you saying the sound will improve or are the sl2000 somehow damaging my ears?

BOTH just replace the 2000's and enjoy the increase in sound quality

leftwinger57

Just today I put in the RDO-194s and there really is no comparison. The SLs were starting to sound a bit scratchy and break up a bit on certain songs. Now what to do w/ them.I was cruising E-Bay last night and there seemed like there were over 15 sets of Silver Domes for prices all over the place. So it's either I keep them or list them in C/L and get a tank of gas if they were to sell.

EndersShadow

I'd keep in case you blow a RDO for some reason.... easy to swap em both back in and wait for a replacement.