My fun with the SDA SRS 1.2TL

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,644
edited December 2013 in Vintage Speakers
So it took a lot of self control to not blast a katrillion photos of this build as I am very proud of the outcome of it and am looking forward to the owners impressions and I know they are excited to have their speakers back in action! :)

This was a blast to build and very challenging when I arrived to the center wiring, very tight space...

Specs -

Clarity Cap MR, Jantzen Inductors, Duelund Resistors

Enjoy! :)
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,590
    edited October 2013
    Wow!!!
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  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,590
    edited October 2013
    I really need to make the drive to NC and drop off my SDA's
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  • zane77
    zane77 Posts: 1,696
    edited October 2013
    Another fantastic job, your customer has to love that.
    Home Theater
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    Emotiva XPA-5 Emotiva XPA-2 Emotiva UPA-2
    Front RTi-A9 Wide RTi-A7 Center CSi-A6 Surround FXi-A6 Rear RTi-A3 Sub 2x PSW505
    Sony BDP-S790 Dishnetwork Hopper/Joey Logitech Harmony One Apple TV
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited October 2013
    Trey your skills are really superb. That is so sweet. Good job and long live the SDA's!
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  • TNHNDYMAN
    TNHNDYMAN Posts: 2,145
    edited October 2013
    Beautiful work.
    2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer.

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  • gmcman
    gmcman Posts: 1,806
    edited October 2013
    Very, very nice...I admire the attention to detail. Awesome job, I wish I could hear them.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited October 2013
    That looks amazing Trey!! That shelf mount is awesome!! But I still wonder about the air movement between the passive and drivers. I am slowly getting mine done, with the weather changing and all, my crossover cabinets will go to paint this week..

    Did you ever get anymore wire back in stock?
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  • Thorton
    Thorton Posts: 1,324
    edited October 2013
    Awesome VR3. You are an artist.
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    Ethernet Filter: GigaFOILv4 with Keces P3 LPS
    Source: Roon via ethernet to DAC interface
    DAC: Bricasti M1SE
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV8805
    Tube Preamp Buffer: Tortuga TPB.V1
    Amp1: Nord One NC1200DM Signature, Amp2: W4S MC-5, AMP3: W4S MMC-7
    Front: Salk SoundScape 8's, Center: Salk SoundScape C7
    Surround: Polk FXIA6, Surround Back: Polk RTIA9, Atmos: Polk 70-RT
    Subs: 2 - Rythmik F25's
    IC & Speaker Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, Signal Cable
    Power Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, PS Audio
    Room Treatments: GIK Acoustics
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited October 2013
    Thanks everyone! :)

    This is my third "shelf" modification and so far no one has mentioned anything about reduced bass or a "negative" comment so to speak. This is the first one with an additional support towards the rear but there is still a lot of clearance around the sides, back and middle which should allow plenty of room to breath...

    I ocassionally have stock but am always able to have items in 4 days or so! :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    edited October 2013
    1. [Costello voice]Hey, Abbott![/Costello voice}

    2. If that is the "Abbot", then I can only imagine what the "Pope" must sound like. Infallible, I suppose.

    3. I'd have expected a grommet where the bundle of wires pass through the hole in the board. Is there still room to enlarge the hole and add one?

    4. Someone far beyond my electrical skill may have to comment about the parallel routing of the wires. Would twisted wires be better in this application???
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited October 2013
    The name of this was tricky, my first name had a few people laughing as it was borderline double meaning, the Abbot had a lot of "what does that mean"

    The Abbot is the father of a Monastery. It seemed fitting...

    I had several size grommets on hand and where it would have come in handy it would have required me to enlarge the hole which would have left very little material and hopefully after they are built the wires will not move anymore... :P
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited October 2013
    Those absolutely kick A$$ Trey! They look superb!

    One question: Why didn't they (the customer) go with the "cast" resistors?
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited October 2013
    Thank you sir!

    The duelund resistors were not originally slated for this build. In fact almost none of this was slated for this built. Originally it was going to be a duplicate of the last one, MR tweeter, ESA midbass/SDA. I upgraded to all MR at no additional cost and about mid way through the build I threw out the Duelund resistor route and offered him a discount off of that... I sometimes do things more so just to do it than to make money, LOL. I am not a huge fan of building the same thing twice. My goal is to build the biggest, baddest crossover ever... if possible! :-P
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited October 2013
    VR3 wrote: »
    Thank you sir!

    The duelund resistors were not originally slated for this build. In fact almost none of this was slated for this built. Originally it was going to be a duplicate of the last one, MR tweeter, ESA midbass/SDA. I upgraded to all MR at no additional cost and about mid way through the build I threw out the Duelund resistor route and offered him a discount off of that... I sometimes do things more so just to do it than to make money, LOL. I am not a huge fan of building the same thing twice. My goal is to build the biggest, baddest crossover ever... if possible! :-P

    That has got to be pretty damned close to the biggest baddest crossover ever Trey! :smile:

    Edit: ALso, that is a very generous upgrade that you offered to the customer Trey!
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • drumiv
    drumiv Posts: 171
    edited October 2013
    Some of that looks like an IED. Oneday, I hope your showing people pics of the one you just did for me! NC, huh? The Outer Banks are one of my favorite places on Earth. Great job, btw.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited October 2013
    Very nice work! Too bad it all has to be enclosed. It's a work of art

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • cincycat13
    cincycat13 Posts: 882
    edited October 2013
    Wow...that is crazy cool. So for your next baddest XO ever...you need to switch from a "shelf" design to a "drawer" design. That way the customer can use a couple of quick disconnects to just slide the rail supported crossover out to show off the artwork. Or they need to ship with 11 x 17 autographed glossy prints suitable for framing. Maybe a photo silk screened over a custom bass trap. Just kidding...but very nice!
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited October 2013
    Trey,

    Again, beautifully done, and I bet the performance is phenomenal!

    It's time to start enclosing your work in external, mahogany boxes with removable tops so that people can see what you do. Maybe some Lexan under the removable top to protect the components!

    Well done, sir!
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited October 2013
    Thank you guys! :)

    I actually have been working on a drawer concept with my fabricator the past few months of what may be the biggest mod ever (two subwoofer size crossovers) that may eventually trickle down to other modifications... :-P

    External is always an option, I find most people do not want it so I never get to do it... it drastically increases cost.

    Thanks again guys!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • GaryW
    GaryW Posts: 60
    edited October 2013
    That is awesome!

    Gary
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  • wwresto
    wwresto Posts: 49
    edited October 2013
    Well done...

    WW
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited October 2013
    Thanks guys! :)

    It is tough to fit ones like this in, it takes about 40 hours start to finish not counting the time spent with the fabricator, etc but it is fun!

    Here are some pics of the rest of it -
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited November 2013
    I missed this one somehow. Damn fine work Trey.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2013
    Thank you Jesse :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • xjghost
    xjghost Posts: 1,101
    edited November 2013
    Wow! IDK what I'm looking at but I know sexy when I see it! And I'm not too far south of you.... I think I might have to look at what you can do for my systems.
    HT/2Channel: Emotiva MMC-1, Adcom GFA-555II, Polk SDA 3.1's, Teac TN-300 TT, Polk Center and Sub.

    Bedroom system: Carver CT-24, Parasound HCA-800II, Monitor 10's

    Additional projects: RTA 12c's
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited November 2013
    THis is the best thing I've seen in a long time!
    Jake
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2013
    Thank you guys very much for the compliments! :)

    I was/am very proud of this mod! I plan to post a follow up review when the owner sends it in, he has been tickled pink since he got them!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited November 2013
    Trey,

    Superb, creative work, as always. Each of your new "performances" exceeds the previous one.

    Now, don't you think it is time to go to bed! :-)

    Phil
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2013
    Phil your comments are always a pleasure to read! :)

    Thank you!

    (Long day!! Maybe in the next hour I can sleep... maybe) :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • newbie308
    newbie308 Posts: 767
    edited November 2013
    Someone is going to have a really spectacular sounding Christmas! That is truly a beautiful example of fine craftsmanship! Some day, I hope to be lucky enough to have something as nice as that! As mentioned earlier, it is unfortunate that your craftsmanship will be hidden!
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