If it's good enough for Polk...

jack
jack Posts: 16
to use those inexpensive - zinc? - spade connectors to connect the supply wires to the drivers inside the speaker cabinets, why not for me to use them outside, say to connect to the back of my receiver? I don't see any gold plated connectors inside the cabinet I just ventured into; in fact the wire used to supply the drivers looks to be about 24ga at most, and not even copper.:confused:
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited January 2004
    Now your flirten with it... welcome to club confusion;)

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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2004
    Do a Google on "audio cable myths". Have fun!!!!
  • walk
    walk Posts: 178
    edited January 2004
    Yeah that's why 10-gauge thermo-statically controlled Titanium-injected gold-plated Monster cable for $25/foot is kinda, well .... stooopid. ;)

    Decent 18-guage or better speaker wire for around $1/foot is normally more than adequate. That's one great thing about Cambridge Soundworks, they sell good stuff for not much bread - hell the last time I bought a pair of $300 speakers they GAVE me a 50' spool for free...
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited January 2004
    I strongly recommend that everyone put their helmets and flak jackets on at this time.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,200
    edited January 2004
    newbies..........

    purely the case of not experiencing......

    One day maybe
    Dan
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2004
    hijack:

    Hey walk, how do you like that Denon 910? How does the PQ compare to other players you have seen?

    Thanks,
    PolkThug
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,645
    edited January 2004
    Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know.

    For those in doubt, try it first...maybe a friend has some good cables you can borrow or perhaps you can see if your local hi-fi shop will let you demo some.....then you can speak from experience.
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited January 2004
    Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know.
    Ahh yes, the classic quote. ;)

    I haven't been posting here too much but hey, what the hell. Just a shot in the dark here but... Could that be the reason Polk speakers are a good bang for the buck? Cabinets and drivers that are used with many different model, cheap wire inside? I've heard some people upgrade the internal wiring.

    Cables make a difference, some more than others.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2004
    The one cable that I've found that doesn't make a difference, is the so-called "digital coax" interconnect. A crappy $3 cable can get all the 1's and 0's to the receiver just as good as an $80 cable.

    Regards,
    PolkThug
  • nemos2
    nemos2 Posts: 111
    edited January 2004
    Just going to throw my $0.02 in.

    Upgraded cables can and do change things for the better, for the most part.

    Almost any cable will upgrade will be better than the standard cables that come with equipment.

    As far as speaker cables go, it just makes sense, the smaller the gauge (sp?) wire the more "space" for the signal to travel etc....

    Lastly don't spend $200.00 dollars on speaker cables for $200.00 speakers.

    Bottom line, use common sense.

    Guess that more than $0.02

    oh well

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  • walk
    walk Posts: 178
    edited January 2004
    I'm not saying you should use the crappy thin cables they pack in with your VCR. I'm just saying you should use decent quality shielded cables, but you don't need to spend a fortune either.

    Re: Denon 910 - it's excellent, although I only have an interlaced tube right now, planning to get a 16:9 RPTV in the next few months, figured I would plan ahead :) At least it can play CD-R/MP3 discs, my old player was too old to read CD-R.
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    - Polk RTi150 mains; CSi30 center; FXi3 surrounds, R15 backs
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  • dan t
    dan t Posts: 206
    edited January 2004
    Hi Jack,

    Which Polk speakers where you looking inside of?

    Dan
  • jack
    jack Posts: 16
    edited January 2004
    10Bs, Dan. The wires leading to the drivers are indeed copper, maybe 24ga. But the slideon connectors are chintzy zinc and the mica pad is zinc also, no gold plating to be found. This obviously transmits signal adequately cuz the speakers sound terrific and I'd never thought to fault this design until I recently began thinking about fancy connectors OUTSIDE the speakers. A set of replacement drivers I recently scored from a fellow polkie had connecting wires soldered to one terminal on each mica pad that were snipped off and I now am tempted to melt it off to reuse the terminals. Or else I leave the solder alone and use the other set of terminals on each driver.
  • dan t
    dan t Posts: 206
    edited January 2004
    Very interesting. I'm tempted to remove one of the 6 1/2" drivers
    on my M10's S2 to see whats under the hood.

    Dan
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2004
    They are all wired in the same basic fashion...thin wire and crimped connectors.

    I have thought about rewiring the entire inside of my SDA's, and I will at some point. I do however like the fact that the crossover connections are made with molex connectors, and will re-use that idea, except with gold pins.

    Raife, Polk Forum member, has rewired a set of SDA speakers, and found little to no benefit. I think it is still a neat project. He stated that the crossover upgrades gave him far more noticeable results. Is that the accurate statement, Raife?
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  • dan t
    dan t Posts: 206
    edited January 2004
    Thanks for that info dorokusai.

    Whats the inside wiring of your 1C's look like?

    Dan
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2004
    Dan - It looks very generic, just like the Monitor 10B guts. Like Jack said, they do sound terrific.

    I will post any "data" that I get from rewiring them, but it isn't a hot project right now....damn the money! and its short supply!
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • dan t
    dan t Posts: 206
    edited January 2004
    I hear ya. Thanks Man.