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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited September 2013
    Lead based paint works best to seal the cables.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2013
    If PFB paints his Porsche, will it go as fast?
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited September 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    I'm no MIT expert, but I imagine painting the cables changes the properties of the cables, any cable for that matter. And, when you change the properties, you change the sound.

    So in other words you were just being a Richard Cranium.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,525
    edited September 2013
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I understand what MIT is and my statement is nothing to do with "expensive wire does nothing".

    Ok so, would you paint your speakers burgundy? I mean, after all they are only speakers.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,525
    edited September 2013
    decal wrote: »
    What's the big deal? They're his wires, he can do what he wants to do to them.

    That includes keeping them because no one is going to buy his burgundy cables. See the big deal now?
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited September 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ok so, would you paint your speakers burgundy? I mean, after all they are only speakers.
    Not a chance. I have to say, though, if my next planned purchase were to upgrade my cheap Monoprice cables, being on the budget I am, I would buy used pink painted MIT wires if the cost savings made it worth it over the same used cables unpainted. For the most part, they are behind furniture.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited September 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    That includes keeping them because no one is going to buy his burgundy cables. See the big deal now?

    No, not really.
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  • Tornado Red
    Tornado Red Posts: 939
    edited September 2013
    One might be able to pick up those burgundy cables for cheap, then top them off with a clear coat finish. Now being clear, they'd blend in to any background, problem solved :P
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited September 2013
    Tornado Red wrote: »
    One might be able to pick up those burgundy cables for cheap, then top them off with a clear coat finish. Now being clear, they'd blend in to any background, problem solved :P
    They'd have great... transperancy

    The puns continue!
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited September 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ok so, would you paint your speakers burgundy? I mean, after all they are only speakers.
    Wanted to add something. I can understand your "love" for wires. Truly.

    "Who cares, it's just wires?" is only my opinion. I did not mean it as "you should not care either".
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    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    I'm no MIT expert, but I imagine painting the cables changes the properties of the cables, any cable for that matter. And, when you change the properties, you change the sound.
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ok so, would you paint your speakers burgundy? I mean, after all they are only speakers.

    Assuming the issue being discussed is the paint altering sonic properties more than resale value, is peeling the faux-wood covering from a pair of old Polk's and replacing with veneer considered to be a mistake?
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited September 2013
    Left my Mac 240 black and silver....did I screw up?....oops!
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited September 2013
    Come on...painting the cables changes the properties and performance as well as sound? If I paint my truck a cooler color, from the hunter green it is now, will it get better gas miledge?
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited September 2013
    nbrowser wrote: »
    I highly, seriously, emphatically, DOUBT painting speaker cable insulation covering whether cheap crap like mine or expensive stuff is gonna affect the transmission properties of the wiring inside....
    Well, you know there is the camp that states everything affect sound. Even laying cables on the floor.

    I guess it comes down to what one believes and what your own ears can hear.

    ...but what if the paint did alter the sound? What if they sound just as contested as the zip wire that is included with a cheap set of speakers? Just a what if....not saying I feel one way or the other....just seems odd to paint a cable in general let alone a more pricey cable.
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited September 2013
    11tsteve wrote: »
    If PFB paints his Porsche, will it go as fast?

    Not if he spins the tires.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,958
    edited September 2013
    You guys are hilarious. Some of you see no good reason to object to painting MIT cables. If it was regular Home depot 14 ga., I might agree, but it's not. Aside from limiting the resale value, insulation as a part of speaker cable design certainly plays a role depending on design of course. Certain insulations used in varying designs have different properties and abilities for noise rejection/picking up static, etc. Would it not be a safe bet by altering the insulation, you may alter the design of the cable, thus the sound too ?

    In this particular case, I can't say for sure if it would or wouldn't alter the sound, why would you take that chance anyway, but I do know people who buy MIT cables are not interested in such stupidity.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2013
    I personally never debated whether it would or wouldn't. But, since painting a speaker was used as an example, I was curious as to why there are no objections to applying an entirely new layer of a differing substance to the exterior of a speaker cab... which I have seen plenty of here in CP.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,958
    edited September 2013
    11tsteve wrote: »
    I personally never debated whether it would or wouldn't. But, since painting a speaker was used as an example, I was curious as to why there are no objections to applying an entirely new layer of a differing substance to the exterior of a speaker cab... which I have seen plenty of here in CP.

    Are speakers designed the same as cables ?

    The cabinet of a speaker is more concerned with the density of materials used and the inside design, the outside is more so cosmetic. Unless we are talking baffles.....
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    Are speakers designed the same as cables ?

    The cabinet of a speaker is more concerned with the density of materials used and the inside design, the outside is more so cosmetic. Unless we are talking baffles.....
    Well, I guess I don't know. Since it seemed people were incredulous at the thought of painting a speaker, and the discussion was oriented toward altering sonic signatures, I assumed it was meant as an example of such a change.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,958
    edited September 2013
    Again, it all depends......would you take a spray can of paint to some JM Labs Utopia's ? A pair of old Sansui speakers....yeah.

    Paint your monoprice cables.....knock your socks off. MIT's ??......you had one too many beers.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2013
    I wouldn't paint anything myself. Well... almost anything. I did spray paint my old '86 Ford Ranger black. And yes, more than one too many beers affected that decision.
    But audio gear, my guitars, amps, etc.... original they all will stay. It just seems many statements here are on the vague side as to what the real issue is, so I wanted to know. Thanks!
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited September 2013
    It's his cables. If he paints them, not my problem. It's his problem.
    It's not like he finger painted over the Mona Lisa.
    There's hundreds of other used non-painted cables for sale.
    Have a good laugh and move on.
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