2s vs. 2As

Easy Runnin
Easy Runnin Posts: 501
edited September 2013 in Vintage Speakers
One of these days I'm going to acquire a pair of SDAs, but not today. Anyhow I see two pairs available in my area, both for $200. If my research is correct one pair are 2As with an SL2000 and a pin blade i/c, the other pair are 2s with SL1000s. Which do you think would be the better choice?
HT- Samsung PN50B860/Integra DTR 30.3/Rt55 Fronts
Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited September 2013
    The ones with one tweeter.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited September 2013
    2As with an SL2000 and a pin blade i/c

    2A's never came with the pin/blade SDA cable, only blade/blade. If they are pin/blade they have to be 2B's and you should buy them today.
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  • Easy Runnin
    Easy Runnin Posts: 501
    edited September 2013
    That's why I included the i/c info in my description. the picture appear to show what looks like pin blade to me.

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    Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
    2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
    Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
    BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited September 2013
    That is a pin-blade crossover; and the SDA 2A/B speakers are nice for the size.
  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    edited September 2013
    Grab them NOW.
  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited September 2013
    That's why I included the i/c info in my description. the picture appear to show what looks like pin blade to me.

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    That's a 2B
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited September 2013
    That's a 2B
    +1, yeppers, looks just like my 2B studio p/b ic connection . Great price on them.
  • Easy Runnin
    Easy Runnin Posts: 501
    edited September 2013
    Ok so I guess they are 2Bs. Seller claims they are wood veneer not vinyl. Does that sound right? They look very similar to the studios but with a wood grain. Also besides new caps what mods would be require or recommended? Would it be a good idea to change the tweets or are the SL2000 ok?
    HT- Samsung PN50B860/Integra DTR 30.3/Rt55 Fronts
    Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
    2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
    Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
    BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited September 2013
    Can't comment on wood veneer vs. vinyl except to say that Polk was famous for doing small runs with whatever they had on hand. You're on the right track with replacing the caps and resistors. It's definitely recommended to replace the SL2000's with RD0-194's. The latter is temporarily out of stock from Polk right now, but should be available in a few weeks. When you call to place the order tell them you're a CP member for a discount and free shipping.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited September 2013
    Buy them now before someone else does. Concern yourself with upgrades after you get them.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited September 2013
    Not as familiar with the studio versions. I believe there were studios with real wood veneer. Or are you saying they are not studios and have the real wood caps on them? By your statement, I am guessing the latter, but those wood caps are real wood, and not veneer at all.

    If you do a search, you can find how to do all kinds of mods to the 2B's. You can "TL" them by adding a 5.6uF cap to the crossover. And, it is very highly recommended that you redo the crossovers with new caps and resistors. More of us are redoing the inductors as well (but this would be a later mod (IMO)). If, and only if you do the "TL" mod to the 2B's, you can replace thwe tweeters with the RD0-198 tweeters. This is what I, and most members recommend. If you do not do the "TL" mod, you can still replace the SL2000's with the RD0-194 tweeter. Either of these tweeters make the SL2000 tweeter sound like trash (actually, the SL2000 does a good jub of sounding like trash on its own).

    You can also add Larry's rings (to couple the drivers to the baffle(s)) which is an extrememly worthwhile mod. You can dynamat the driver/PR baskets. You can add some blackhole 5 to the inside walls of the 2B's to improve midrange.

    Those are the must do mods off the top of my head. There are a few others as well. If you do all the mods, the 2B's will sound absolutely phenominal! The 2B was my first SDA speaker and I still own them (although I don't use them to much). They are a great speaker! I hope this helps you out.....

    Bottom line is, BUY THEM!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited September 2013
    A couple of things my friend....
    but those wood caps are real wood, and not veneer at all.

    The end caps on 2B's are veneered.
    You can "TL" them by adding a 5.6uF cap to the crossover.

    That should be a 5.8uF cap.
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    edited September 2013
    $200.00 is what I paid for my 2B Studio's snatch them while you still can great price, good luck.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited September 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    A couple of things my friend....



    The end caps on 2B's are veneered.



    That should be a 5.8uF cap.

    LOL! Thanks Jesse. Totally F'd those up didn't I? (Note to self: Always check your facts. Always.)

    I didn't realise they were veneered on the 2B's. I knew the 3.1TL's were (veneered), but thought the thicker wood caps on the 2B were fully oak, etc. which is why they are so much heavier? Thanks for the correction.
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    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    edited September 2013
    Buy them, its a great speaker and you will learn all the upgrades later.

    Let us know what happens...
  • Easy Runnin
    Easy Runnin Posts: 501
    edited September 2013
    Man, this is starting to get to me. I figured what I thought were 2As was the better deal, but I didn't think it was that good of a deal. I was planning on being more patient and waiting for something better. I'm dropping major coin on a HVAC system this week and I don't think I can swing it. Am I standing next to that rabbit whole thing? anyhow, they look like these but with a light wood grain.

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    HT- Samsung PN50B860/Integra DTR 30.3/Rt55 Fronts
    Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
    2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
    Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
    BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5
  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited September 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    A couple of things my friend....



    The end caps on 2B's are veneered.



    That should be a 5.8uF cap.

    Not that I was questioning you said Jesse. I looked at my 2B's and sure enough. Veneered. My memory of it was true wood. As I said, always check those facts.:redface: Thanks for the correction Jesse.

    Edit: ^^^^^OP: Those are studio 2B's^^^^^
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    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


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    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited September 2013
    they look like these but with a light wood grain.

    The ones in your pic are 2A's, but someone has removed the 2 inch riser. The Studio 2B's have a 1 inch riser and only came in vinyl.
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited September 2013
    I would get them while they are there. At least talk to the seller maybe give a deposit and have them hold them. That is the best sounding SDA of all that I have heard (IMO)( and I have heard most models) and it is a great price. Or put the HVAC off another week or so....:rolleyes:
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