Does the length between paired speakers matter?
Sumerian
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Will there be any effect on the SQ if the wire length from AVR/Amp to Left front is different to Right front?
My AVR/Amp is close to left speaker planning to get 1 meter (4.92 feet) MIT Shotgun S3 for Left and 8 Feet MIT Shotgun S3 for Right will this have any effect?
Or is it suggested to keep the lengths same?
My AVR/Amp is close to left speaker planning to get 1 meter (4.92 feet) MIT Shotgun S3 for Left and 8 Feet MIT Shotgun S3 for Right will this have any effect?
Or is it suggested to keep the lengths same?
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If you rearrange your gear you might find the short cable to be a problem. There will not be any audible difference in sound with only a 4' difference in cables. When you setup your AVR it uses the length of the distance between the speaker and your seat. It doesn't care about the cable length.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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If you rearrange your gear you might find the short cable to be a problem. There will not be any audible difference in sound with only a 4' difference in cables. When you setup your AVR it uses the length of the distance between the speaker and your seat. It doesn't care about the cable length.
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My AVR/Amp is close to left speaker planning to get 1 meter (4.92 feet) MIT Shotgun S3 for Left and 8 Feet MIT Shotgun S3 for Right will this have any effect?
This is a non-issue because the shortest speaker cable lenght MIT sells is 8 feet.Political Correctness'.........defined
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This is a non-issue because the shortest speaker cable lenght MIT sells is 8 feet.
Joe also have 1.5 meter cables -
Speaker cables???Political Correctness'.........defined
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President of Club Polk -
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Ok, color me stupid today, why on earth would you need an 8 ft RCA cable ? The rca's go from receiver to amp, no way those are 8 ft. apart.
Speaker cables should be bought in equal lengths, with a tad extra just in case you have to move gear around, rearrange the room.HT SYSTEM-
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Ok, color me stupid today, why on earth would you need an 8 ft RCA cable ? The rca's go from receiver to amp, no way those are 8 ft. apart.
My rack is 5 feet tall, I need 6 feet to go from the receiver on top shelf to the amp on the bottom shelf. The need for 8 ft isn't really that hard to imagine. But I believe he was talking about speaker wires.
Why should they be equal lengths? My equipment is in the back corner of the room, they aren't equal lengths. Speaker wire should be in the wall, not on the floor like most amateur installs.Speaker cables should be bought in equal lengths, with a tad extra just in case you have to move gear around, rearrange the room. -
My rack is 5 feet tall, I need 6 feet to go from the receiver on top shelf to the amp on the bottom shelf. The need for 8 ft isn't really that hard to imagine. But I believe he was talking about speaker wires.
Why should they be equal lengths? My equipment is in the back corner of the room, they aren't equal lengths. Speaker wire should be in the wall, not on the floor like most amateur installs.
While your situation may be unique, definitely not the norm. Also, speaker wire in the wall ? Also not the norm, nice to do, but not the norm. Usually speakers are set equal distances from center, and people usually re-arrange rooms over time too so hence my thoughts. Not written in stone, but this is usually why when you buy speaker cables, they come in equal lengths.HT SYSTEM-
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Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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Why should they be equal lengths?
Well, for one thing in the case of better cable, that's the way they come.Speaker wire should be in the wall, not on the floor like most amateur installs.
I've never seen a serious 2 channel rig with in wall speaker cable.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Not to mention in-wall speaker cables makes it a tad hard to try new cables every so often.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
In wall speaker cables add more unnecessary connections. A big audiophile no-no.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Speaker wire should be in the wall, not on the floor like most amateur installs.I've never seen a serious 2 channel rig with in wall speaker cable.
Apparently, you associate with serious amateurs.
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
Apparently, you associate with serious amateurs.
After all these years.....who knew!Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Not to mention in-wall speaker cables makes it a tad hard to try new cables every so often.
I don't believe in wasting time listening to cables. I listen to music. -
In wall speaker cables add more unnecessary connections. A big audiophile no-no.
Tom
No extra connections, I use these in the wall behind the rack, and a single hole behind each speaker:
http://www.amazon.com/DataComm-45-0002-WH-2-Gang-Recessed-Voltage/dp/B001C4BEOY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1377660802&sr=8-5&keywords=wall+plates -
WilliamM2, I've got to hand it to you, you're always good for a chuckle.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
WilliamM2, I've got to hand it to you, you're always good for a chuckle.
I'm sure I get just as much entertainment from your posts, so it all evens out. -
There you go, making me laugh again.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
I don't believe in wasting time listening to cables. I listen to music.
To bad you can't hear it. :rolleyes:Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
I don't believe in wasting time listening to cables. I listen to music.
....and you can't listen to music without cables. Also lends itself to.....you can't listen to better music if you never try better cables/gear.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
F-1 I know exactly what William m2 is talking about .I've pre wired hundreds of houses for both alarm and music.and all are home runs w/ no splices anywhere. It's up to the customer as to what wire he/she wants to use w/ our instruction and how long the runs were.We usually used Carol 12gu in wall class 2 w/ either new work boxes to except ready made plates for banana plugs or just a 6/8' tail of wire coming out of lets say a cable plate w/ the f-connector removed. At the amp end all would be marked w/ tape or #tags and either go to a speaker selector3gang plate or to the amp it'self depending on how big the system was.If not planned right then yes YSOOL,so that's why you have a sit down between electrician,alarm dude, and designer to get all the stars aligned.2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E
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Lew, he's a cable/gear naysayer, that's all.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
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I've never seen a serious 2 channel rig with in wall speaker cable.
Sounds like a serious lack of experience. -
Sounds like a serious lack of experience.
Just the opposite William. You'll find just by looking on other forums, viewing pics, the majority of good 2 channel systems don't use in-wall cables.
Another reason why is because in-walls will require additional footage, and when we are talking better more expensive cable, it makes no sense.
Maybe your satisfied with your cables and never intend to use anything else, which is fine and dandy....for you.
But calling the ones who don't use in-walls "amateur" ,LOL well that's just amateur in itself.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Sorry Skip...you are too amateurish to understand either.
:loneranger:"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
I really hope Mr. M2 is talking about HT installs and not a 2 channel system.
He is just another troll who periodically surfaces, and tries to stir the pot. Personally, I find these clowns amusing, even if they are frowned upon. Why they revel in ignorance is subject matter for countless hours of discussion.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
Sounds like a serious lack of experience.
Please don't attempt to pass off your issues as mine.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
