Amplifier suggestions for LSIM setup

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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    These are the ones which i find decent looking and good for music. Let me know your opinions

    1) B&K 200.5
    2) B&K 200.7
    3) Parasound A51
    4) Aragon 2005
    5) Aragon 2007

    Hopefully one of these pop up for a sweet price.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,828
    edited August 2013
    Any one of the first 3 would be a good choice. I don't know enough about the Aragon's.
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Any one of the first 3 would be a good choice. I don't know enough about the Aragon's.

    Thanks for the feedback

    Adding Aragon 3005 to my list
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,482
    edited August 2013
    cfrizz wrote: »
    It's very simple and very clear Tony. He is interested in the Emotiva because it's a NEW product, with a warranty, and he can return it if he wants to. This is very important to most people. If he buys used he doesn't have any of the above listed.

    You guys might not like it but the fact that Emotiva is still in business is because they allow people to get into higher end gear at a reasonable price than you can get out of Best Buy or going to some high end shop where he will pay a whole lot more for brand new.

    Curious how you surmised that as Tony never mentioned Emo once...
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,482
    edited August 2013
    Sumerian wrote: »
    These are the ones which i find decent looking and good for music. Let me know your opinions

    1) B&K 200.5
    2) B&K 200.7
    3) Parasound A51
    4) Aragon 2005
    5) Aragon 2007

    Hopefully one of these pop up for a sweet price.
    Another amp to add to your list would be a Sunfire TGA 7200 or 7201... great amp for the coin, and you can bi-amp the fronts from it.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Another amp to add to your list would be a Sunfire TGA 7200 or 7201... great amp for the coin, and you can bi-amp the fronts from it.

    Thanks for the suggestion
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited August 2013
    Sumerian wrote: »
    These are the ones which i find decent looking and good for music. Let me know your opinions
    1) B&K 200.5
    2) B&K 200.7
    3) Parasound A51
    4) Aragon 2005
    5) Aragon 2007
    Hopefully one of these pop up for a sweet price.
    Nice list!

    Here are some example used prices my POWERFUL:cheesygrin: CL app pulled up...only the 7270 is in your area but at least you have an idea.

    Aragon 2007 - $1650 ATL
    Aragon 3005 - $900 SFBay
    B&K Ref 200.7 SII - $1450 Miami
    B&K Ref 200.7 SII - $500 Boulder
    B&K Ref 7270 SII - $900 NJ
    B&K Ref 7250 SII - $650 Omaha
    B&K Ref 7250 SII - $600 Virg. Beach
    Parasound Halo A52 - $1795 Dallas
    Parasound Halo A51 - $2250 St Louis

    Also there's a B&K 7250 SII for $725 + $77 ship on ebay.
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    WLDock wrote: »
    Nice list!

    Here are some example used prices my POWERFUL:cheesygrin: CL app pulled up...only the 7270 is in your area but at least you have an idea.

    Aragon 2007 - $1650 ATL
    Aragon 3005 - $900 SFBay
    B&K Ref 200.7 SII - $1450 Miami
    B&K Ref 200.7 SII - $500 Boulder
    B&K Ref 7270 SII - $900 NJ
    B&K Ref 7250 SII - $650 Omaha
    B&K Ref 7250 SII - $600 Virg. Beach
    Parasound Halo A52 - $1795 Dallas
    Parasound Halo A51 - $2250 St Louis

    Also there's a B&K 7250 SII for $725 + $77 ship on ebay.


    Great!... Appreciate your time and help.

    Damn this thing is like swimming in a ocean.

    So i assume 7250 or 7270 are predecessors for 200.5 and 200.7?
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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited August 2013
    Had an Aragon 2005 for a bit. Nice looking amp but sonically kinda flat, boring, slightly warm/rolled off in my opinion.
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    What is the average selling price for a used B&K 7250 SII ?
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited August 2013
    Sumerian wrote: »
    So I assume 7250 or 7270 are predecessors for 200.5 and 200.7?
    I keep reading that sonically they are the same. the later amps have a different faceplate and balanced XLR inputs added but NO level adjustments for each channel. For the money $700-$800 not sure what else is out there...unless a great deal comes along in your area like the $500 B&K 200.7 in Boulder, CO. I say make an offer on the 7270 near you in NJ and be done!
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited August 2013
    Sumerian wrote: »
    What is the average selling price for a used B&K 7250 SII ?
    7250
    One sold for $750 on ebay, $650 on Audiogon and two non working units sold for $200+, $300+ on ebay.

    7270
    $980 on Audiogon, $636 & $850 on ebay.
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    WLDock wrote: »
    I keep reading that sonically they are the same. the later amps have a different faceplate and balanced XLR inputs added but NO level adjustments for each channel. For the money $700-$800 not sure what else is out there...unless a great deal comes along in your area like the $500 B&K 200.7 in Boulder, CO. I say make an offer on the 7270 near you in NJ and be done!


    Checked the spec you are right they look almost same.
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    WLDock wrote: »
    7250
    One sold for $750 on ebay, $650 on Audiogon and two non working units sold for $200+, $300+ on ebay.

    7270
    $980 on Audiogon, $636 & $850 on ebay.

    Submitted offer if it goes through i will be set for next few months until i get hold of this amplifier thing.
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    DSkip wrote: »
    There is a Parasound A52 on the Dallas CL for about $1800 asking. The guy has quite a few items from the Halo series as well. If you end up going this route and would rather someone else package/ship it for you, let me know.


    Thanks for offering to help that is very kind of you .... sent IM
    Can you please check if he has A51?
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    WLDock wrote: »
    I say make an offer on the 7270 near you in NJ and be done!


    No response not sure if it is still available.
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    Seller wants 725$ for a 7250... not sure if i have to jump on it or give couple of more days to find another one.
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  • Ndgraz
    Ndgraz Posts: 3
    edited August 2013
    Seems like there are a bunch of us looking to purchase a decent amplifier right now after this F&F sale. I'm guessing if a company like Emotiva or Outlaw offerred a sale right now, we'd probably jump on it.

    Has anyone tried putting together a group buy? Is that even a possibility with amplifier retailers?
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Here's a few good choices culled from the used market in your price range.

    Rotel RMB-1095 - 200wpc x 5

    Aragon 3005 - 300wpc x 5

    Anthem Statement A5 - 225wpc x 5

    B&K 200.7 - 200wpc x 7

    Jesse,

    In your intial recomendation you have suggested all 5 channels except for B&K is it because it is THX certified and sounds better than 200.5? or is it because you havent heard 200.5?
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    Ndgraz wrote: »
    Seems like there are a bunch of us looking to purchase a decent amplifier right now after this F&F sale. I'm guessing if a company like Emotiva or Outlaw offerred a sale right now, we'd probably jump on it.

    Has anyone tried putting together a group buy? Is that even a possibility with amplifier retailers?

    I have no idea but how about B&K or Parasound group from a dealer?

    Are there any sponsored dealers here on any other audio forums?

    BTW what speakers did you buy?
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    And also organising a Emotiva group buy here would be more like puting gasaoline into fire :eek:
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  • badchad
    badchad Posts: 348
    edited August 2013
    Just an FYI, I got my B&K 200.7 for about $500 on Craigslist. I live in the DC/Maryland area though, so there's usually lots of goodies available.

    In reality, I got the B&K plus the B&K reference 50 preamp for $750, but I'm hoping I can resell the pre for $250 on flea bay. Also got some monster XLR interconnects that might bring the cost down too. If you're patient, there are always deals to be had, it just depends on timing.
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    Sub: HSU VTF-3 (MK1)
    AVR: Yamaha RX-A2010
    B&K Reference 200.7
    TV: Sharp LC-70LE847U
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    badchad wrote: »
    Just an FYI, I got my B&K 200.7 for about $500 on Craigslist. I live in the DC/Maryland area though, so there's usually lots of goodies available.

    In reality, I got the B&K plus the B&K reference 50 preamp for $750, but I'm hoping I can resell the pre for $250 on flea bay. Also got some monster XLR interconnects that might bring the cost down too. If you're patient, there are always deals to be had, it just depends on timing.

    500 is very slick for 200.7 nice!
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  • Ndgraz
    Ndgraz Posts: 3
    edited August 2013
    Sumerian wrote: »
    I have no idea but how about B&K or Parasound group from a dealer?

    Are there any sponsored dealers here on any other audio forums?

    BTW what speakers did you buy?

    I bought the LSIM 705s and the 704c (706c wouldn't quite fit). They will be replacing M70s and CS2. I'm expecting great things... they arrived earlier today and can't wait to get home to set up!

    I will be moving the M70s to the rear (have some M60s there now).
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,828
    edited August 2013
    Sumerian wrote: »
    Jesse,

    In your intial recomendation you have suggested all 5 channels except for B&K is it because it is THX certified and sounds better than 200.5? or is it because you havent heard 200.5?

    Nope, just took a look at what was on the used market at the time.
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  • Sumerian
    Sumerian Posts: 490
    edited August 2013
    would like to update the end result...

    I finally placed order for Parasound Halo A51... Got a deal from the dealer for a brand new, what i feel is a great deal so i couldn't pass it up... Ordered a black one.

    Thanks a lot for all the folks for their time and patience in answering all my questions....

    there were couple of good suggestions from the fellow folks which were equally recommended along with Halo but the looks of Halo won me over.

    Though i have been swayed by the fancy looking and crazy spec'ed Emotivas in the beginning but slowly i moved up the thought process ladder and ended up with parasound...


    I assume i did good ... have to wait and listen how it comes out.

    one thing i would like to add for any new novice audiophilas... though i havent done A/B comparison but from the information i have gathered numbers alone doenst mean anything and take the reviews on the internet with a spoon of salt.
    especially emotivas fans try too read the threads on their forum and other forums you will soon realize it is like a mass hysteria.
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,657
    edited August 2013
    While I haven't had a chance to hear the Ms on the A51, I did hook my stock LSi9s up to my buddy's A51 and the combo, while maybe not the end all be all of sound was rather impressive.

    I am hardly an Emo basher. I have owned several and still have one residing in a closet as a backup. But the sound was not what I was looking for and as such, I moved on to other brands ultimately ending up with Adcom.
    Eventually, I would love to be able to afford multiple brands of amps that can be swapped in/out and A/B comparisons can be made. But until then, I have to rely on others' experiences.
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