Vintage 5.1 Setup Complete

Nightfall
Nightfall Posts: 10,086
edited August 2013 in Vintage Speakers
Only thing missing is to find some Peerless Monitor 4's to replace the ones I'm using. Just picked up these Peerless Monitor 5's today with original stands and literature. Let me know if you see that I'm doing anything obviously wrong here, I'm still learning.

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afterburnt wrote: »
They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    edited August 2013
    Well, the Misfits are going to sound pretty good on that setup. :twisted:
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited August 2013
    You know, 2 channel music sounded a lot better when it was only going through the CA1010. Once I started using the 7.1 AVR, 2ch music went back to sounding a little bright, especially at mid to higher volumes. I would have thought since they're being powered by the 1010 that they would have the sound of the 1010 but no. Even when I put the AVR in "pure direct" it still effects the sound.

    I guess that was the long way of saying Misfits sounds okay but not great. I need a different AVR or a pre/pro setup I think.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited August 2013
    How are you wiring the 2 5's for a center?
    Use in series as parallel will drop load too hard to handle for a receiver.

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited August 2013
    They are wired in parallel, so 4 ohm load. I figured since the only other thing it's powering is the little 4's and I rarely listen to anything louder than 10 watts (according to the needles on the CA1010) that it would be okay.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited August 2013
    Polk manual suggest that you hook 5B up in Series, 5B are 6 ohms.

    http://www.hifiengine.com/library/polk-audio/monitor-5b.shtml

    I know yours are 5A just saying be careful
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited August 2013
    Well, just found this out. Should have checked them more closely when I bought them today but I suppose it wouldn't have made a difference, I still would have bought them. :cheesygrin:

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    I'm sure this is hurting bass performance. Is there a specific PR I need to be looking for as far as replacement?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    edited August 2013
    If you have room, turn the center-channel speakers right-side-up. (tall, not wide)

    Dispersion pattern should improve--less reflected sound off floor and ceiling. Short, wide center channel speakers are common as dirt, but they're build "wrong" to deliver best sound. They're built that way to fit available space in the Entertainment Center.
    Nightfall wrote: »
    They are wired in parallel, so 4 ohm load. I figured since the only other thing it's powering is the little 4's and I rarely listen to anything louder than 10 watts (according to the needles on the CA1010) that it would be okay.
    I was reading about this within the last week. (Don't remember where, though...)

    The article was about power dissipation through the power transistors of an amp, and how reducing the impedance of the load causes the power transistors (or tubes, I suppose) to dissipate far more heat than a person would expect as the impedance drops. Using an amp below it's recommended impedance gets things hot in a hurry, even at reduced power levels. KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR AMP'S TEMPERATURE.
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  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited August 2013
    Nightfall wrote: »
    You know, 2 channel music sounded a lot better when it was only going through the CA1010. Once I started using the 7.1 AVR, 2ch music went back to sounding a little bright, especially at mid to higher volumes. I would have thought since they're being powered by the 1010 that they would have the sound of the 1010 but no. Even when I put the AVR in "pure direct" it still effects the sound.

    I guess that was the long way of saying Misfits sounds okay but not great. I need a different AVR or a pre/pro setup I think.

    It's a vintage 5.1 set-up right? You might consider a surround sound processor that you can hook up in the tape loop. Yamaha made a DSP E-300 back in the day, that has amp outs for rear surround, front presence, center and LFE out for bass/subwoofer. It also pushes front presence, rear surround and center channel at an amazing 20WPC. The Main is still out through your integrated amp.

    The manual is here .

    My point is you can have the DSP / Surround sound effect on or off, and the two channel stereo is always gonna be your old school integrated amp.

    Cheers,
    Wayne
    Yamaha RX-V2700, EMI 711As (front), RCA K-16 (rear), Magnavox Console (Center & TV Stand), Sony SMP-N200 media streamer, Dual 1249 TT =--- Sharp Aquas 60" LCD tellie
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited August 2013
    The thing is, is I need the digital connections.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited August 2013
    Nightfall wrote: »
    Well, just found this out. Should have checked them more closely when I bought them today but I suppose it wouldn't have made a difference, I still would have bought them. :cheesygrin:

    w6im.jpg

    I'm sure this is hurting bass performance. Is there a specific PR I need to be looking for as far as replacement?

    That looks like a clean tear. Might there not be an adhesive that would seal it? Anyone have any suggestions here?

    cnh
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited August 2013
    Will any polk 8" PR work? I noticed there is one version that has a larger dustcap then the other.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited August 2013
    It would be best to get the exact replacement, or a Polk recommended replacement. PRs are weighted differently to "tune" them to the specific application. Using the wrong one will alter the bass output. That said, I'd be inclined to attempt a repair with a bead of some sort of flexible adhesive.
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  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited August 2013
    Yes but, If your Phillips Smart TV has 4 HDMI inputs, and 3 audio outputs and one composite video output with audio out too.... I count 4 HDMI in and 4 audio out. I don't know how many digital signals you're running, but you can run your HDMI's into your TV and run your audio out into your classic integrated amp / Yamaha DSP E300 in the tape loop and viola. problem solved.

    Cheers,
    Wayne
    Yamaha RX-V2700, EMI 711As (front), RCA K-16 (rear), Magnavox Console (Center & TV Stand), Sony SMP-N200 media streamer, Dual 1249 TT =--- Sharp Aquas 60" LCD tellie
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited August 2013
    Nightfall wrote: »
    Well, just found this out. Should have checked them more closely when I bought them today but I suppose it wouldn't have made a difference, I still would have bought them. :cheesygrin:

    w6im.jpg

    I'm sure this is hurting bass performance. Is there a specific PR I need to be looking for as far as replacement?
    Look for the Monitor 5 original 8" with the front fiber gasket. The 5B may be weighted differently.
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    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited August 2013
    wayne3burk wrote: »
    Yes but, If your Phillips Smart TV has 4 HDMI inputs, and 3 audio outputs and one composite video output with audio out too.... I count 4 HDMI in and 4 audio out. I don't know how many digital signals you're running, but you can run your HDMI's into your TV and run your audio out into your classic integrated amp / Yamaha DSP E300 in the tape loop and viola. problem solved.

    Cheers,
    Wayne
    My TV only has a single audio out and it's digital coax. I think TV manufacturers are starting to do away with analog outs.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited August 2013
    westmassguy wrote: »
    Look for the Monitor 5 original 8" with the front fiber gasket. The 5B may be weighted differently.
    Thanks!
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited August 2013
    My TV only has a single audio out and it's digital coax. I think TV manufacturers are starting to do away with analog outs.

    As my daughter's 8th grade science teacher used to say.... "That's most unfortunate"
    Yamaha RX-V2700, EMI 711As (front), RCA K-16 (rear), Magnavox Console (Center & TV Stand), Sony SMP-N200 media streamer, Dual 1249 TT =--- Sharp Aquas 60" LCD tellie
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited August 2013
    wayne3burk wrote: »
    As my daughter's 8th grade science teacher used to say.... "That's most unfortunate"
    Indeed.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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