2004 Election

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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited January 2004
    George,
    You're probably right, It's just difficult to not respond on occasion. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I do hope I enlightened a few.;)
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by Frank Z
    George,
    You're probably right, It's just difficult to not respond on occasion. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I do hope I enlightened a few.;)

    :( Yeah, but in my humble opinion it's amazing how uninformed so many people truly are. I don't see the harm in righting wrongheadedness. A lot of it comes down to understanding a viewpoint and following your own beliefs to their logical conclusions.

    It's amazing what happens once people are honest enough to do that. And personally...that's why I love talking politics because I can backup my beliefs because logic, and fact are on my side more often than not.

    So if it pisses people off I could care less. What really matters is that they start thinking. There isn't enough of that going on, and yes...that matters a hell of a lot more then where to put what cable where.
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by Frank Z

    - Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.
    WE'RE NOT DONE!!!

    My point exactly way back at the start of this Post!

    Originally posted by George Grand

    - It WON'T be possible.

    The unfortunate truth is GG is probably right. In our Country freedom to speak is gauranteed but often while hearing something we don't agree with, "we attack", instead of, "listening and learning", then refining our understanding.

    IMHO gidra and Frank have just shown us how we should behave. They both tought me and I thank you both for your time.

    HBomb
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by Demiurge
    [........because I can backup my beliefs because logic, and fact are on my side more often than not.[/B]
    Regardless of my thorough disgust with you, the only problem with this statement is that YOUR logic, and what YOU view as facts aren't always accurate, even though I know you'd argue that. I know (from other threads like this) that you like to shove your personal opinions down peoples throat and then **** about anyone having an opinion other than yours, and it's attitudes like that (you're just an example right now, so be calm) which Micah used in telling us to leave Politics outta here.......

    To simplify......don't get all whiny and pretend that others thoughts are automatically wrong when their opinions vary from yours. (could have sworn I've said that before)
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited January 2004
    We are ALL right. When you state your opinion, you make a statement that you have formulated through your OWN interpretation of the information (notice I used the word info instead of facts) presented to you, and that formulation is the sum of all your life experiences, coupled with your own ability to process information. Seeing how we ALL have differing life experience, and ability to process info, nobody is wrong. That's my take on it.

    Let's beat each other up over stuff that really matters........ like the fact that none of you have a rig NEARLY as accurate as mine (insert smilie face here). See how easy that was?

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2004
    George said it nicer........I wasn't trying to......but ya, basically what I was sayin.........and I agree George.

    My only problem is the people that presume everyone wrong that don't agree with their opinions.....
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  • Loud &amp; Clear
    Loud &amp; Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited January 2004
    Good post, Gidrah, absolutely terrifying to have that guy in office.

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  • shepx2
    shepx2 Posts: 646
    edited January 2004
    Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.


    Shouldn't he get a bonus for this?

    Heck, I think we should all be like Utah, and have death by firing squad. Take it one step further though; blindfold the firing squad, so that it may take 4-5 shots to kill the ****.
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by George Grand


    Let's beat each other up over stuff that really matters........ like the fact that none of you have a rig NEARLY as accurate as mine (insert smilie face here). See how easy that was?

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)

    Sheesh George I needed help figuring a name for my audio room and now you expect me to understand accuracy????

    Just too much for my fragile little mind:p

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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by brettw22


    To simplify......don't get all whiny and pretend that others thoughts are automatically wrong when their opinions vary from yours. (could have sworn I've said that before)


    LoL...you should heed to your own advice.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by brettw22


    My only problem is the people that presume everyone wrong that don't agree with their opinions.....

    Presume? No what I have a problem with is when people post crap from other websites thats blatantly untrue then get all bent out of shape when they're shown the errors in their posts.

    If you're going to open your mouth you should be prepared to defend your point of view and concede when you're proven wrong time and time again.

    So If you want to argue the topic at hand go ahead, but don't try giving me a lesson on how to argue in a political debate.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited January 2004
    Politics - Religion, no one ever wins..........
    My Dad lost his life savings in the stock market - I lost over half of my 401k stock money in the last two years.
    Whatever that means.......... :confused:
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by scottvamp
    Politics - Religion, no one ever wins..........
    My Dad lost his life savings in the stock market - I lost over half of my 401k stock money in the last two years.
    Whatever that means.......... :confused:

    I lost half of my 401k money too. I also gained it all back in the past year and then made more on top of it.

    But nobody ever talks about that.
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by scottvamp

    My Dad lost his life savings in the stock market - I lost over half of my 401k stock money in the last two years.
    Whatever that means.......... :confused:

    Nothing is lost until you sell your compressed investments. I have taken a beating and thought I was on a track to retire by 45 a few years ago but that is a reality long past. I care not to even think about the REAL cash I have lost. My Dad is retired AT&T, now Lucent, and imagine being in his shoes. Markets swing and unfortunatly we are way into the bad side just starting back the other way(hopefully!). I would not think to blame any political party on what we have endured and are going too.

    I will say 1 thing though and this is my Opinion... my cash would be going into gold/silver then burried in coffee cans on state game lands if we as a Nation were not putting a stop to terror incorporated.

    Pull your shoulders back, stick your chest out and blame the true enemy!

    Twin doing his HBomb Act!
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by Demiurge
    If you're going to open your mouth you should be prepared to defend your point of view and concede when you're proven wrong time and time again.

    So If you want to argue the topic at hand go ahead, but don't try giving me a lesson on how to argue in a political debate.
    Trust me, you're version of 'right' is a version that I couldn't even PRETEND to be interested in. I have no desire to argue politics, so I haven't.

    The lesson to you isn't how to argue a political debate, it's how to stop being a pretentious dick.....
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by brettw22
    Trust me, you're version of 'right' is a version that I couldn't even PRETEND to be interested in. I have no desire to argue politics, so I haven't.

    The lesson to you isn't how to argue a political debate, it's how to stop being a pretentious dick.....

    Again..I think you need to heed to your own advice Brett. Look around the forums and please tell me when I seek you out to attack you. I never do. It's you who can't leave things alone. Don't worry though...I'm sure it'll be taken care of on Monday.

    Now please...for the 585842834823540283 time....Stop bugging me. You're doing this forum absolutely no good with your constant harassment of everyone you don't agree with. Take a pill and relax a little. You may learn to enjoy life a little more.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2004
    Random thought: I always wondered how someone's parents being related would affect them......Thank you for showing us Demi......
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by brettw22
    Random thought: I always wondered how someone's parents being related would affect them......Thank you for showing us Demi......

    Grow up.
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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited January 2004
    Jesus H. Tap Dancin' Christ on a Surfboard!!!! Will the both of you knock this **** off!! I don't have a problem with either of you individually, but when you both start going after each other I could eff puke. P.M. each other with hate mail if you like, But this ain't your private battle ground!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by Frank Z
    Jesus H. Tap Dancin' Christ on a Surfboard!!!! Will the both of you knock this **** off!! I don't have a problem with either of you individually, but when you both start going after each other I could eff puke. P.M. each other with hate mail if you like, But this ain't your private battle ground!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

    I'd accept that Frank, but I'm sorry to say. Look around. I don't EVER go after this **** and I'm goddamn sick of being roped into his ****. Figure it out. This isn't my problem it's Brett's. I'm goddamn well as sick of it as everyone else. I'm not the only one who deals with his **** and he knows it.

    I've ignored his CONSTANT harrassment as best I can.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2004
    Yup Demi, you're a lil victim.......:rolleyes:
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited January 2004
    Same problem I had - same person.
    You think thier is a connection...........
    Demiurge, don't sweat this guy he is an **** - he is now the only person on my ignore list. Been kissing **** to save face on this forum since out last spat. Even Sid has become a better man.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2004
    Scott, the fact that you and Demi share a kindred attitude surprises me not one bit that I'd pick at you for the same stuff I'm picking at him. I know you both feel that your elitist attitudes are acceptable, and if you have a problem with me calling you to the table on them, cry elsewhere. I've seen newbies berated by you basically incinuating that they're stupid for asking a question, and Demi's attitude of "I'm Right, You're Wrong" is pure **** as well. Pucker up to each other, and get it on already.......
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited January 2004
    its amazing how politics can foster so much hatred.
    me, i like Bush (in more ways than one) . does he have his faults, hell yes, but the fact that people liking the job he is doing can foster so much negative emotion astounds me.
    was i a big clinton fan?, no. did i hate people who liked him? no. did i call them names? no. take a paxil and chill gang :D
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited January 2004
    he he he

    It's not ANYONES fault, but EVERYONE is wrong.

    If you want to point fingers, blame the mainstream music industry, Disney, and the Crocodile Hunter.

    Cheers,
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited January 2004
    Thanks for saving me some time Frank. It is amazing how people think the US changes instantaneously when a president is elected. I’ll add some arguments to the economy attacks:

    Any government policy that affects the economy takes years to take affect. What a lot of people do not remember is that while the economy wasn’t down the crapper in 00, it was certainly circling the bowl. Check the stock market the second half of 00… Clinton inherited a great economy from Bush Sr. and rode it into an unsustainable bubble and government overspending, Bush Jr. got to inherit the burst bubble

    Also, if he is so bad at man economics, why is the economy turning around? Why did we just have one of the greatest increases in domestic production for a quarter in recent (20+ years) of history?

    The best argument of all (in my mind) is who would you rather have deal with 9/11, Bin Laden, and Hussein: Gore or Bush. ‘Nuff said, out of the choices in 99/00, I’m certainly glad he was elected, valid or not, over the other guy.
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  • nebborjk
    nebborjk Posts: 425
    edited January 2004
    While we're on the topic of politics...
    Take this little quiz, it should take about a minute, you might be surprised at the results.

    http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited January 2004
    According to the quiz, I'm a centrist, bordering on authoritarian. Who knew? :eek:
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited January 2004
    According to your answers, your political philosophy is libertarian.
    I'm a librarian, I need re think my career.


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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2004
    Originally posted by nebborjk
    While we're on the topic of politics...
    Take this little quiz, it should take about a minute, you might be surprised at the results.

    http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

    I find the quiz a wee bit silly. Some of the questions are so broad and in many cases would need situational instances for me to either agree or disagree depending on the situation.
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