I won a super cheap ebay auction, wait till you hear this jokers response to me

polkfarmboy

I already knew the price via fedex and he is $55 more, Its just being shipped in the factory box

nspindel

Once upon a time, a lot of sellers would offer items at low prices with very high shipping prices. The reason was eBay didn't charge a final value fee on the shipping, only the item price. So sellers would save on fees by doing it that way. eBay caught on to this, and started charging the final fee to the seller inclusive of the shipping.

MacLeod

Yeesh. This is why I avoid ebay, I just fail at it. I'll just cough up the extra cash and buy from Crutchfield or Best Buy. Way less drama.

jon s

I won a Sony PS-8750 vintage turntable on ebay for $170, a real steal. The pics showed the table as near mint as possible... unfortunately, the seller packed it in a box the same size as the turntable. He did not even bother to tape down or fix the platter in position. By the time I got it, the platter had of course ran its course and broke the cover and snapped the tone arm off its pivot point.

I really was devastated by that. It was the only time I won something I really, really wanted on ebay.

D_M

Jon s,

That sucks. I have also experienced the same thing. Now, I provide detailed instructions on how I want stuff packed. I ask the seller before I bid if my packing requirements are a problem and I offer to pay for the extra packing material. This usually gets the items to me in one piece.

ZLTFUL

All, just to clarify, PFB has every reason in the world to hate UPS and to not want to deal with them. I am with him at least as far as the wanting a different shipper thing.

Could he have handled it better? Sure...
But so could the seller. Fact is, if I buy something from you, I should be your favorite person in the whole wide world until 45 days after the auction ends or I post positive feedback. :cheesygrin:

D_M

ZLTFUL,

The USPS service might be different, but as far as the other shippers, there is no difference. Loaders and unloaders are under the same amount of pressure to move packages through the system.

jflail2

Except when you "win" something, you are basically entering into a contract as per the terms laid out on that item's page. It's nice and all that the seller gave some leeway, but he was absolutely not required to since the listing blatantly laid out that shipping price.

kevhed72

Between UPS and FedEx....I'll stick with the USPS for shipping audio stuff- and I work for one of the first 2.:redface:
Waaawaaawaaa......

polkfarmboy

jflail2 wrote: »

Except when you "win" something, you are basically entering into a contract as per the terms laid out on that item's page. It's nice and all that the seller gave some leeway, but he was absolutely not required to since the listing blatantly laid out that shipping price.

There was no seller giving any leeway? j,fail 2 read the thread again

kevhed72

This is illogical. Either the seller picks a service and the final shipping charge is based on your zip code----OR----the seller can charge a flat-rate shipping charge regardless of zip code. Sometimes sellers "make-out" or "lose-out" when they charge flat rate shipping. So, which one was it Spock?

boston1450

Just hope you get it in good condition. Id pay more to know i get it all in good order. Good luck PFB

polkfarmboy

Keiko wrote: »

Anyone else get the feeling all the facts are not being presented? Bottom line, you bid, you won and you're bound by the terms of the auction, pfb. Seems like we've heard similar stories from you before.

Fail!

There is no facts, all that was said was " can you ship this fedex because I have had a few bad experiences with ups damaging packages and just leaving them outside my door" and he said " sure I can do that" I reply " great and why is the shipping so much will you revise the price on that forme when you switch to fedex" He tells me " Contact me when the auctions over and I will have that shipped out to you" Right there I never asked anything else about shipping and we spoke about the speaker line level inputs

So there you have it, won the auction said hi I won can't wait for the sub to get here blahblah and the guy ignores several more messages and then it opens up with my first post

ZTLFUL sent me his gtx high end gaming rig via ups in a factory carton and I could have cry'd when I opened the box to see it obliterated. One weekend I was gone from Thursday to Tuesday for work and came home to see my JVC projector just sitting outside my door so you can forgive me for preferring another shipping carrier

ken brydson

Keiko wrote: »

Anyone else get the feeling all the facts are not being presented? Bottom line, you bid, you won and you're bound by the terms of the auction, pfb. Seems like we've heard similar stories from you before.

Fail!

Just a matter of time til he breaks it himself....:biggrin:

codyc1ark

Can you send a postcard without drama???

mdaudioguy

polkfarmboy wrote: »

There is no facts

I declare a mistrial. This case is dismissed.

heiney9

Moose68Bash wrote: »

It is pretty obvious that many sellers on eBay inflate the shipping price that they quote in their listings and post "low-ball" prices for the items listed. This practice makes their items appear more attractive and assures them that they get the amount they want from their auctions. Is this deceptive? I don't know, but I do know that they put it right out there in front of God and everybody to see. That's life on eBay.

When I buy, offer or bid, I include shipping as I consider the price I'm willing to pay. That way there are no surprises and no gripes on my side.

Just my humble opinion.

Polkie2009 wrote: »

I've noticed in the past couple of years, Ebay sellers will sometimes post a Buy It Now price that looks like a deal, then they charge a buttload for the shipping and handling. Better to just buy from the trusted sellers here at CP flea market.

Moose68Bash wrote: »

Amen to that!

Not to bolster PFB's tatics on Ebay buying, I will say this, EBAY caught onto inflated shipping charges about 2+ years ago. There is really no advantage to "over charging" for shipping as they now apply the same sellers percentage to shipping cost as they do to selling cost. A huge dis-incentive to mark up shipping because as a seller you are paying the same fee as if you charged "market value" for your item. In fact it has become a burden to those of us sellers who charge the actual shipping fee, because now we ALL pay a percentage to Ebay for shipping. The d*ckheads who overcharged for shipping ruined it for all of us!!!!!!

H9

heiney9

Another casual observation on CP is how people continue to buy/sell on EBAY and don't have a f*#king clue how it all works!! How does someone participate without some basic knowledge (not just directed at the OP). I read several threads about EBAY and guess what......................I've read the fine print and know EXACTLY what's going on, how are some people soooooooooooooo clueless? It's all there on the internets....try lifting a finger(s) and doing a bit of research......no Dewey Decimal system needed!!!

I have zero tolerance for peoples issues with EBAY in regards to things spelled out in black and white in the user agreements.

PFB, don't effing pay him until he makes good on his supposed offer to reduce shipping..............are you effing stupid to send him the full amount and then expect him to "refund" you?

H9

polkfarmboy

I never paid him though when he telling me he will refund me when I had posted the first time. I knew he never wanted to sell it low so I ended up paying the full amount late last night. Its a lesson learned and the moral of the story is don't take for granted that a seller will honor his words, make him honor them before bidding ends

I think we can all leave this thread be, the many different views and opinions are appreciated

heiney9

So you never sent him $$$ yet he was vehemently telling you he would refund your purchase? Something doesn't add up if that's the case. People don't refund $$$ they haven't received!

H9

teekay0007

heiney9 wrote: »

Another casual observation on CP is how people continue to buy/sell on EBAY and don't have a f*#king clue how it all works!! How does someone participate without some basic knowledge (not just directed at the OP). I read several threads about EBAY and guess what......................I've read the fine print and know EXACTLY what's going on, how are some people soooooooooooooo clueless? It's all there on the internets....try lifting a finger(s) and doing a bit of research......no Dewey Decimal system needed!!!

I have zero tolerance for peoples issues with EBAY in regards to things spelled out in black and white in the user agreements.

PFB, don't effing pay him until he makes good on his supposed offer to reduce shipping..............are you effing stupid to send him the full amount and then expect him to "refund" you?

H9

True that!

heiney9

Sorry to be so on point PFB, but the anonymity of Ebay breeds less than honorable people so make sure you understand the rules and be leery of taking someone at their word if it's going to cost you more $$$. Here's how you should have handled it.

1) contact the seller BEFORE the end of the auction
2) get him to commit to the shipping reduction in writing
3) wait for him to change the shipping in the ad
4) if he doesn't change the shipping, don't bid on the item.

If he's not good on his word I'd be suspicious about the condition and operation of the item too. There have been instances when I demonstrated to the seller his/her shipping price was out of line and they changed it for me. In the instances they didn't, I moved on to the next seller.

H9

AsSiMiLaTeD

MacLeod wrote: »

Yeesh. This is why I avoid ebay, I just fail at it. I'll just cough up the extra cash and buy from Crutchfield or Best Buy. Way less drama.

This

heiney9

Surprisingly I've had over 200 transactions on Ebay and maybe a handful of minor issues and only 2 major issues all of which were decided and remedied in my favor. But, then I can sort of pick the good/bad sellers. I usually open a dialog with them, see how they respond, etc. I don't really buy high dollar items either to minimize the risk. I think the most I've spent on Ebay from a seller, not an established retail store front is $200. From a well known e-tailer I've spent upwards of $600. I spent $1K back in the "good" days of Audiogon, although that one made me nervous.

It really is about risk and reward, especially for items you can no longer buy new. I have bought several hundred new/used tubes on Ebay and only twice had some issues. Once the seller stood up the other was resolved in my favor through Ebay.

To each their own

David R

Well, it takes time to package a product and take it to a place for shipping. Their time is not free. It is honest to post a price for shipping as long as it is obviouse and easy to see. I really don't understand you. Everytime you contacted him adds to the time he is spending on selling the product. Can you explain why you tried to re-negotiate after you made a deal. Lots of luck.

PolkieMan

I far as shipping the seller has his costs.
The shipping fee, printing the label, the packing material, the labor, the drive time and the gas.

jflail2

polkfarmboy wrote: »

There was no seller giving any leeway? j,fail 2 read the thread again

I said it was nice that he gave leeway on the shipping, but he didn't have to......................................

Don't know how to say it much more clearly than that.

decal

codyc1ark wrote: »

Can you send a postcard without drama???

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madmax

Call Martin Logan and complain!