I won a super cheap ebay auction, wait till you hear this jokers response to me

polkfarmboy
polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
edited August 2013 in The Clubhouse
So I won this auction for today real cheap for a Martin Logan subwoofer to add some bass to my wyred4sound mono's

I have been contacting this guy all day asking for a shipping quote as he had it over $100 and its only a 49 lb item. I informed him that I do not like ups and I would like the box dimentions and weight sent to me along with a fed quote. He just keeps ignoring me. But last night as soon as I asked anything he was responding instantly

Ok here is response about 5 minutes ago and I quote " I am on vacation with my son . Sorry of that is more important than the price of shipping
I will refund your money first thing tomorrow
I do not sit in front of a PC or check emails all day"

I am like what the ??? So I respond back "What do you mean your on vacation or you do not sit in front of a computer all day. Your selling stuff on ebay but you have no intention of accommodating a buyer? "

During typing this thread I get another message "I SAID I would refund your money
Let it go"

What planet is this tough guy on because now he's using caps lol

I just responded "Well I would actually like a quote please"

This is funny and will update and I am opento any suggestions for replying to this rotten apple
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  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,334
    edited August 2013
    I think you need to contact eBay. He can't unilaterally void an auction, you have to agree to it. However, if his quote was over $100 and you bid anyway, you would have to pay what he quoted in order for the sale to go through. At least, that's what it was when I was selling there.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    I think you can actually ask for a revision about overcharging shipping and before the auction ended I explained all of this but still even at $265 for a Martin Logan grotto plus $100 shipping is still quite a good deal even though he informed me that the speaker line level inputs are not working.... don't you think?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,525
    edited August 2013
    However, if his quote was over $100 and you bid anyway, you would have to pay what he quoted in order for the sale to go through.

    Bingo!!!
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  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,334
    edited August 2013
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    I think you can actually ask for a revision about overcharging shipping and before the auction ended I explained all of this but still even at $265 for a Martin Logan grotto plus $100 shipping is still quite a good deal even though he informed me that the speaker line level inputs are not working.... don't you think?

    Definitely, but the guy's attitude would worry me. Did he mention the line level problem in the ad? If not, you have to wonder if it's true and he's trying to talk you out of them, or if there's other issues he didn't cover. Still, it is an awesome price if that's all that wrong with them.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Bingo!!!

    Bongo
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    Keiko wrote: »
    pfb, since you bid, you agreed to the terms of the auction. If he quoted 100.00 shipping and you bid, then you're bound by the terms. If you had any questions, you should have asked before bidding.

    But I really did explain to him about it last night and he was real cool about it
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited August 2013
    So you got a good buy but the shipping quoted was a bit "too high". That happens all the time! How "old" are you--you're an adult, right?

    cnh
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    cnh wrote: »
    So you got a good buy but the shipping quoted was a bit "too high". That happens all the time! How "old" are you--you're an adult, right?

    cnh

    Sometimes lol but seriously, I talked to the guy the night before and he was all .. sure I will use fedex and not ups to get you a more accurate quote. He was very accommodating and now that no one bidded because it ended at 7 am he just ignores me lol

    After I posted this thread I sent a message " Lets just ship it your way, I know your upset because your subwoofer went low" << :lol:
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  • GFOviedo
    GFOviedo Posts: 353
    edited August 2013
    Contact eBay.
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    CENTER: ARX A2RX-C
    SURROUND L/R: ARX A3
    SUBWOOFER: PSA-XV15

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,525
    edited August 2013
    Please don't bid on anything I might sell on eBay.
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited August 2013
    I won a turntable on Ebay a Pioneer PL518 for $50, real nice.

    The guy emailed me back 2 days later and said that Sandy had flooded his house and that he has refunded my Paypal.

    Did he change his mind or did that really happen?

    Anyway you agree to the sellers terms and price on shipping unless you work out something before the auction ends.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,224
    edited August 2013
    cnh wrote: »
    So you got a good buy but the shipping quoted was a bit "too high". That happens all the time! How "old" are you--you're an adult, right?

    cnh

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    Just saying...
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Please don't bid on anything I might sell on eBay.

    Don't worry I am not into emotiva amplifiers
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,958
    edited August 2013
    The guys are right PFB, once you bid your agreeing to terms and shipping costs. Winning the auction is like signing a contract under those terms. Trying to negotiate after signing that contract is a no-no.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    I know tony and agree with you and have paid him in full even though that is not what I discussed with the guy before and after bidding the night before the auction ended. Its also a lesson learned to never take anyones word on ebay as its all very legalistic and not like our beloved flee market
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  • jflail2
    jflail2 Posts: 2,868
    edited August 2013
    Sounds like the shipping cost was right in front of your face when you bid on it.......I guess some folks just aren't cut out for the complicated world that is Ebay.........................
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    jflail2 wrote: »
    Sounds like the shipping cost was right in front of your face when you bid on it.......I guess some folks just aren't cut out for the complicated world that is Ebay.........................

    Sounds like you never even read anything in the thread :lol: jk

    Just incase you missed it, the seller offered to accommodate me with a more accurate rate and change the carrier to fedex as I dont like ups. He said he just put in a fixed price and offered ups and would sort it out if I won

    I won, now its only going out ups for the listed rate. Many people here don't see anything wrong with this picture and thats fine but its not really the way I do things
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited August 2013
    I think based on your previous posts that you have a real problem dealing with people on Ebay. It's not so much that the people you deal with are "jokers" but rather how you deal with them. You come off as abrasive, impatient, and aggressive. Calm down, be friendly and it will be fine. Just the title of your thread tells me your mentality towards it.
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited August 2013
    It is pretty obvious that many sellers on eBay inflate the shipping price that they quote in their listings and post "low-ball" prices for the items listed. This practice makes their items appear more attractive and assures them that they get the amount they want from their auctions. Is this deceptive? I don't know, but I do know that they put it right out there in front of God and everybody to see. That's life on eBay.

    When I buy, offer or bid, I include shipping as I consider the price I'm willing to pay. That way there are no surprises and no gripes on my side.

    Just my humble opinion. :smile:
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited August 2013
    Well I have had great dealings with everyone on there apart from this guy and if you think his response of "I am on vacation with my son . Sorry of that is more important than the price of shipping I will refund your money first thing tomorrow I do not sit in front of a PC or check emails all day " after ignoring me the whole day after saying anything to make me bid is a fault of mine then sure, guilty s

    Here is how I do things, I ship with an exact amount anddo not skim anything off the top and ship what ever carrier the buyer wants. I even stopped a shipment going out because I noticed me and ebay was making too much money from the sale last week. I refunded my buyer and relisted it for him with a better shipping price, alot of hassle and waiting for money again but at least I did the right thing

    Once I sold my AVM 40 on ebay and the buyers wife called me up when it arrived at their home complaining about they have a kid and he's out of control. Even though that sale was final and no returns I gladly did what I could to help and took back the Anthem and refunded the guys wife to make them happy
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited August 2013
    polkfarmboy,

    Your approach is commendable -- honesty, integrity with sportsmanship thrown in as icing on the cake! I would say you are the Nordstrom-like seller on eBay.

    My experience is, however, that if you expect that gold standard for customer satisfaction to be ubiquitous on eBay, you are doomed to be frequently disappointed.

    I've "rolled the dice" on a few dodgy eBay listings. I've been satisfied with some results and dissatisfied with about an equal number. I never buy anything that is not paid via PayPal. I've had very good luck with the PayPal dispute resolution process, but that would not have helped you in your situation.

    By the way, if the seller verbally agreed to one thing and then refused to live by his word, PayPal/eBay would not help you, as far as I know. All they can do is enforce the terms of their businesses. I would, of course, never touch an item from that seller again.
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited August 2013
    I've noticed in the past couple of years, Ebay sellers will sometimes post a Buy It Now price that looks like a deal, then they charge a buttload for the shipping and handling. Better to just buy from the trusted sellers here at CP flea market.
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited August 2013
    Polkie2009 wrote: »
    I've noticed in the past couple of years, Ebay sellers will sometimes post a Buy It Now price that looks like a deal, then they charge a buttload for the shipping and handling. Better to just buy from the trusted sellers here at CP flea market.

    Amen to that!
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  • MAD
    MAD Posts: 105
    edited August 2013
    Moose68Bash wrote: »
    It is pretty obvious that many sellers on eBay inflate the shipping price that they quote in their listings and post "low-ball" prices for the items listed. This practice makes their items appear more attractive and assures them that they get the amount they want from their auctions. Is this deceptive? I don't know, but I do know that they put it right out there in front of God and everybody to see. That's life on eBay.

    I've seen that many times.... maybe they figure that if you stumble on the item one minute before auctions end you won't factor in the shipping costs into the total price you are paying or you will be getting a packaging job that could survive a fall out of an airplane.
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  • MAD
    MAD Posts: 105
    edited August 2013
    Moose68Bash wrote: »
    It is pretty obvious that many sellers on eBay inflate the shipping price that they quote in their listings and post "low-ball" prices for the items listed. This practice makes their items appear more attractive and assures them that they get the amount they want from their auctions.

    I've seen that many times.... maybe they figure that if you stumble on the item one minute before auctions end you won't factor in the shipping costs into the total price you are paying or you will be getting a packaging job that could survive a fall out of an airplane.
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited August 2013
    Heck, some of the great packing jobs for our fellow polkies probably could__ survive a fall out of an airplane!:cheesygrin:
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited August 2013
    I won a Yammy receiver on a 1st and only bid. The seller shoved it in a box so tight the
    sides were bulged out. No packing material. It was advertised as broken.
    IT got to me with more dings and dents that you could imagine.
    And it WORKED. Go figure.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited August 2013
    MAD wrote: »
    I've seen that many times.... maybe they figure that if you stumble on the item one minute before auctions end you won't factor in the shipping costs into the total price you are paying or you will be getting a packaging job that could survive a fall out of an airplane.

    It's just part of the Ebay game, and I never look at an item price without looking at the shipping total as well; Chinese seller seem to do this the most. If you sort by price, ebay will even include the shipping amount into that price.

    To PFB, no matter what the seller says, if you don't like the terms of the auction, don't bit as anything else is a verbal contract not honored by Ebay. It does sound like the seller didn't like the final price his subwoofer closed at, but that ends up being between him and Ebay, and don't get involved past that.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,630
    edited August 2013
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    I won a Yammy receiver on a 1st and only bid. The seller shoved it in a box so tight the
    sides were bulged out. No packing material. It was advertised as broken.
    IT got to me with more dings and dents that you could imagine.
    And it WORKED. Go figure.
    And to think we cant get new stuff not banged up. Lol
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  • rdb2001
    rdb2001 Posts: 791
    edited August 2013
    Honestly, he may not be making that much off the shipping depending on how far it has to go. My wife and I went to LA in may. We got a little carried away with shopping and had to ship about 12 pairs of shoes back to our home in memphis. That 36 lbs cost me 86 dollars because of the distance and size of the box. I have shippied heavier amps double boxed for less because of a shorter distance. In the end, you did bid knowing shipping was 100.
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