Ordered New Amp Today/Fun Fun
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So far a tad harsher at the top at loud db, just a tad,and I mean at 98db and higher! I usually listen between 94-100db.orherwise fantastic!!!!!"Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for"
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Im glad you are happy with your amps Bob,you been on a roll.Enjoy
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Lick your fingers when your finished?Do you hear that buzzing noise?
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Bob have you noticed any thin mids with the panels ?
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Of course a congratulations is in order. But, if no one minds my asking, can someone please explain to me in layman's terms exactly why other manufacturers aren't producing similarly powered amps that don't require he-man arms to lift? If I understand D-Sonic's website correctly, a 400x3 weighs less than 30 lbs. What is their secret? Thanks.Denon X7200WA
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But, if no one minds my asking, can someone please explain to me in layman's terms exactly why other manufacturers aren't producing similarly powered amps that don't require he-man arms to lift?
In Layman's terms...because it's much easier to reproduce old technology than to try to design something new! The money spent in developing a new technology or design is much higher than just altering the cosmetics of an amp and calling it a new model! lol And other companies have made lightweight "powerhouse amps. The 350WPC Carver M1.5t weighed under 20lbs.The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. -Albert Einstein
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Of course a congratulations is in order. But, if no one minds my asking, can someone please explain to me in layman's terms exactly why other manufacturers aren't producing similarly powered amps that don't require he-man arms to lift? If I understand D-Sonic's website correctly, a 400x3 weighs less than 30 lbs. What is their secret? Thanks.
Because weight isn't the main criteria. How it sounds is.
Bob,
At your listening levels, you sure your not hitting the Logan's limits for that harsh top end instead of thinking it's the amp ?HT SYSTEM-
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Good point! However,I was using a db meter with the BAT,and the db were the same! And from everything I read,and heard,the montis's can go real loud,without much strain! Maybee they are!Because weight isn't the main criteria. How it sounds is.
Bob,
At your listening levels, you sure your not hitting the Logan's limits for that harsh top end instead of thinking it's the amp ?
There is a lot of weight in the middle,and lower frequencies! So far,this may be a keeper! But I've got a lot more listening to do,before I make any rash decision!"Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for" -
Ding! Ding! Ding! It sounds like we have a winner. The more you listen you'll pick up more of the amps muscle, it's subtle capabilities & just it's pure musicality. Keep on listening....it only gets better."2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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Put simply the Class D output stage with it's 90% ish efficiency negates the need for large heat sinking because unlike typical Class A/B designs most of the power is used to drive the speaker load,not pissing 50-60% of it away in the form heat.Powering it with a switched mode power supply (SMPS) means no beefy toroidal transformers or large filter caps are required.Adding it up results in considerable savings in both weight and space requirements.If I understand D-Sonic's website correctly, a 400x3 weighs less than 30 lbs. What is their secret? Thanks. -
bobsauto49 wrote: »Good point! However,I was using a db meter with the BAT,and the db were the same! And from everything I read,and heard,the montis's can go real loud,without much strain! Maybee they are!
There is a lot of weight in the middle,and lower frequencies! So far,this may be a keeper! But I've got a lot more listening to do,before I make any rash decision!
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pearsall001 wrote: »Ding! Ding! Ding! It sounds like we have a winner...
That's not what I read.
I will say this: After listening to a piece of equipment for a long time, when I switch to a new piece I almost always listen with rose colored glasses initially, for a couple of reasons: 1, I want to justify my purchase, and 2, my ear is likely to take for granted what the old piece did well, meaning that I'm more likely to pay attention to what the new piece does better rather than what it does worse.
In my experience it takes a long time to make a decision between similar quality pieces of gear.
So pearsall, while I'm glad that you enjoy the d-sonic's "muscle, it's subtle capabilities & just its pure musicality", you would be mistaken to assume that the VK-500 does not possess those same qualities.
This post is 100% objective and is in no way defensive of the BAT because I own one...:rolleyes::cheesygrin:2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's
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