Ordered New Amp Today/Fun Fun
bobsauto49
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Gonna give D-sonic a try! Ordered a new M3-1200s stereo amp today. Talked to Dennis,who is a hell of a nice guy,as he told me this is no sonic difference between the mono's,and the stereo amp's. After reading the farmer's Wryed thread,glad I opted for the D-sonic 
Ive read a lot of great things about Dennis' amps,and am excited to try em out! Rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper:eek:
Ive read a lot of great things about Dennis' amps,and am excited to try em out! Rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper:eek: "Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for"
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Way to go Bob...kicking **** & taking names I see. That's one hell of an amp you got coming. I'm telling you you're going to be floored with it's performance. I think what separates Dennis' line from others is that he doesn't use the B&O ICE amps but a newer topology platform that he says is head & shoulders over the B&O design. Well the proof is in the pudding so to speak. I eagerly await your review. This is too funny too because I'm having conversations with Dennis on a possible killer 7 channel amp I'm looking to have him build. I'm not even close to hitting China yet so there's plenty of "HOLE" to dig."2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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Well Phil,I'm not in prison yet,so I don't have to dig to China:biggrin: But I seem to keep following u around this audio Journey:loneranger: Thanx a lot Buddy:twisted:"Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for"
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You're very welcome!
Dennis told me the same thing that the stereo & mono amps sound identical, simply a matter of preference. For my system the mono's were a perfect fit. Our amps are identical so I pretty much know what you're in store for. I just don't want to spoil things for you. :biggrin: Congrats & enjoy!!! "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up. -
Congrats and I've heard nothing but good things about his amps!
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Nice dude, congrats. Be very interested in your thoughts once you get a chance to play with them.
Considering your current amp, the Bat VK500, which is no slouch by any measure, I'm looking forward to the comparison.HT SYSTEM-
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Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I hope when you first hear the dsonics they sound dry and miserable and you start crying at the same time you overstuff your mouth with Cheetos only to roll of the couch in a fetal position repeating.. 'what have I done, what have I done'
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polkfarmboy wrote: »I hope when you first hear the dsonics they sound dry and miserable and you start crying at the same time you overstuff your mouth with Cheetos only to roll of the couch in a fetal position repeating.. 'what have I done, what have I done'
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I am actually very curious though as to how bob's experience goes with these as he's the only one who can really get me the info I need on using them with electrostats. I eagerly await your impressions Bobsauto49 and hope 2 things... first, they have a great return policy :cheesygrin: and second, they sound fantastic
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So you might be going that route? Interesting! Would love to hear these....newfangled class D.pearsall001 wrote: ».... I'm having conversations with Dennis on a possible killer 7 channel amp I'm looking to have him build.2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2 -
polkfarmboy wrote: »I hope when you first hear the dsonics they sound dry and miserable and you start crying at the same time you overstuff your mouth with Cheetos only to roll of the couch in a fetal position repeating.. 'what have I done, what have I done'
Not gonna happen! I only eat Cheetos,when I'm watching ****;-)"Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for" -
bobsauto49 wrote: »Not gonna happen! I only eat Cheetos,when I'm watching ****;-)
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Congrats on the new amps Bob! I was tell PFB just yesterday to give Dennis a call to check out some of his D-Sonic amps. Dennis is a great guy and is willing to go the extra mile to make sure you are happy with his product. I've met him in person a number of time at HAS(Houston Audio Society) meetings and he is familiar with the Club Polk Forum and Polk speakers.
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Did you ever handle vinyl when eating Cheetos? If so I bought some of your used records in Milwaukee.bobsauto49 wrote: »Not gonna happen! I only eat Cheetos,when I'm watching ****;-)
Congrats on your amps! Your ESL's have powered bass modules, so these will power panels only, right?Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 * -
Never owned a record Rich,so blame it on Leroy:eek: And Yes,these only power the stats! 200w powered subs underneath both stats!SCompRacer wrote: »Did you ever handle vinyl when eating Cheetos? If so I bought some of your used records in Milwaukee.
Congrats on your amps! Your ESL's have powered bass modules, so these will power panels only, right?"Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for" -
When is the delivery date? Don't forget pics!!! And don't forget to fill us in on your findings. I'm really curious to see if we have the same experience."2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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pearsall001 wrote: »You're very welcome! Dennis told me the same thing that the stereo & mono amps sound identical, simply a matter of preference.
That's retarded, and a typical "salesman's" response. If there is no difference then why build mono's. Stupid. I would have politely said no thanks and hung up, his products would have been out of the running for making such a stupid statement, unless it's true. Then I would question his engineering and topology and capabilities as an amp designer/seller.
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Well, what makes a set of monoblocks special?
-Individual L & R amps (Usually flagship model)
-Reduced crosstalk
-Seperate power supply...(usually beefy)
-Can be placed closer to the speakers.
Anything Else I missed?
The D-Sonics don't share power supplies but only ground and AC line power. http://www.d-sonic.net/products/
So, their amps are Dual, Triple, Quad, Quint/Penta, Sex/Hexa, Sept/Hepta - Mono Designs.
They offer several 400, 500, 600, 800, 1500 watt combinations.
I guess the only advantage of the monoblocks is that one can put them closer to the speakers if they wanted?
Just a different topology and approach....and I'm not a sales person. LOL2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2 -
That's retarded, and a typical "salesman's" response. If there is no difference then why build mono's. Stupid. I would have politely said no thanks and hung up, his products would have been out of the running for making such a stupid statement, unless it's true. Then I would question his engineering and topology and capabilities as an amp designer/seller.
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Interesting take to say the least. But the question as to why build mono's? Seriously."2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up. -
Dennis's statement mirrored WLDOCK's post!"Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for"
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...Considering your current amp, the Bat VK500, which is no slouch by any measure, I'm looking forward to the comparison.
I hope the BAT sounds better. :twisted: Mainly because I have one, lol. If the BAT loses, I may have to see what this Class D ish is all about... I was hoping to be done with amps for a while.2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's
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I'll be sure to clue u in! Lol! I'll be selling,or returning the loser!falconcry72 wrote: »I hope the BAT sounds better. :twisted: Mainly because I have one, lol. If the BAT loses, I may have to see what this Class D ish is all about... I was hoping to be done with amps for a while."Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for" -
falconcry72 wrote: »I hope the BAT sounds better. :twisted: Mainly because I have one, lol. If the BAT loses, I may have to see what this Class D ish is all about... I was hoping to be done with amps for a while.
I'm going to make a prediction, we'll see if I call it. I think for the most part it will be a wash. I think the Bat may win on the higher frequencies and tone, maybe a tad better on soundstage width and height but not by much. The Dsonic may win on speed and dynamics, again, not by much. Hence I call a wash.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Be sure to let us know your thoughts when you get the amp. When is it due ??Pio Elete Pro 520
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Interesting! If that's the case,the BAT will be out the door! I've had to send the left channel in twice for problems already,and it's starting to piss me off,however,Victor promises to have it fixed this time! But I flat out love how it sounds when it was working! But pulling the 120lb monster out and disassembling it has been a major PITA! I'll find out tues.how the d-sonic matches up!I'm going to make a prediction, we'll see if I call it. I think for the most part it will be a wash. I think the Bat may win on the higher frequencies and tone, maybe a tad better on soundstage width and height but not by much. The Dsonic may win on speed and dynamics, again, not by much. Hence I call a wash."Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for" -
bobsauto49 wrote: »Rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper:eek:
I hate to break this to you now........audio rabbit holes have no bottom.......congrats on your new purchase
That's retarded, Stupid. stupid
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Congratulations!
I really look forward to your observations and review of the D-Sonics.Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
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I did get them,and so far so good! Need to do so more critical listening for a few days!!"Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for"
