original 1923 Yankees Stadium seat

pglbook

And now for something completely different and unique...

I have for sale an original 1923 Yankees Stadium seat.

My father bought 2 of these seats - one for my brother and one for myself - when the original Yankees Stadium was remodeled after the 1973 season. The old Korvettes department store (now defunct) bought all of the seats from the original Yankees Stadium when the seats were removed after the 1973 season and they sold the seats in a promotion with Winston cigarettes. I still remember going to the Walt Whitman mall in Huntington, NY, where I grew up, and there, in the parking lot, was a tractor trailer full of Yankees stadium seats! All one needed at that time to get a seat was a little cash (I can't remember the exact amount but it was around $25, perhaps less) and 5 empty cartons of Winston cigarettes. My father bought 2 of the seats and gave one to me and the other to my brother.

My father was born in 1924 in Astoria, Queens (NYC) and grew up a huge Yankees fan. He saw all of the greats play - Gehrig, Dickey, DiMaggio, etc. He thinks that he even he saw Ruth play in his final year although he was not sure of that. I grew up listening to all of his great Yankees (and baseball) stories and he passed along his passion for baseball and the Yankees to my brother and I.

I am asking $2,000 for the seat which I know, to some, may seem high but, given its scarcity and its condition, I think it is a fair price. And heck, for the price that some on CP pay for audio cables, one can own a piece of baseball history!!!

I have seen pics of seats that come up for sale online from time to time and I can honestly say that the seat I have is in better condition than the ones I have seen for sale online. Of course, being 90 years old, it does have some wear (the usual rusting to metal feet and some to metal arms and some paint chipping) but all is original and all is in very good shape. I have seen seats in quite poor shape sell for between $1,400 and $2,000 on ebay, and seats in half-way decent shape sell for on average $2,000 to $2,500. As I said, the seat I have is in better condition than the ones I have seen for sale.

I can send pics of the seat to anyone who is interested (I doubt there will be much interest from Boston Polkies, haaaa).

I do not think I can ship this heavy seat, so, for now, I can only offer free delivery within a 4 hour driving distance of Albany, NY. That means that I can deliver it for free to most places in NY, NJ, CT, PA, MA, RI, etc.

Again, I can send pics if there is any interest.

Let's Go Yankees!

jephdood

Not a Yankees fan, but this is cool. Please post some pics here in the thread if you can so we can all see 'em!

mrbiron

(I doubt there will be much interest from Boston Polkies, haaaa).

I'll buy it, throw it in a wood chipper, toss the video on youtube and hit 1 BILLION hits by sunday! :cool:

If i were you, i'd hold onto that puppy...way too cool to get rid of!!

pglbook

I will post a few pics as soon as I can. It is a really cool item.

Thanks.

pglbook

here are some pics

nooshinjohn

It's really cool... but where are the cup holders? There is no way I would sell something like that.

GLWTS

pglbook

Thanks.

If anyone is thinking about this but doesn't have all of the cash up front, I'd also be willing to do a 4 or 5 month payment plan.

Let's Go Yankees! (well, not this year)

DaveHo

I hate to post this, it's not that I don't believe you, but do you have documentation to go along with it? 2K is a good chunk of change for a seat that could be found in any ballpark in that era.

pglbook

DaveHo, I knew that someone would ask about authenticity and it is not a problem. I should have mentioned that in my original post. I can guarantee that the seat is authentic and that is why in my op I went into detail about the provenance of the seat.
To directly answer your question, there is no certificate of authenticity or plaque or anything else because, in 1973, when my father bought these seats for my brother and myself (and I was there and remember it well), there was no billion dollar sports memorabilia industry like there is today and there did not exist things like COAs.

This is a site of honorable folks and I would never post anything that was not authentic and do not appreciate the post about its authenticity.

pglbook

You know, I love this site and the people on here but this has been the first time that I have been pissed off by a CP member's comments because I think it is total BS for DaveHo to question my integrity and question the authenticity of the Yankees Stadium seat I am offering for sale. Basically, he is questioning my integrity and I think that is total is BS. Not appreciated at all, man.

I have sold and bought quite a few things on here and have participated a lot to this forum and have had great discussions with lots of people since I joined about 8 months ago.

I am sorry you had doubts and felt the need to question my honesty, DaveHo. I always thought this site was a community where all trusted each other and I think I earned that respect. But I guess Dave did not think so.

pglbook

Moderators, please remove this listing from sale. Apparently some ignorant member questions the authenticity of the item although I can ensure you it is the real deal.

txcoastal1

pglbook I don't think he is questioning the authenticity nor your integrity but asks questions just as any other collector of memorabilia

Just my humble opinion....not to cause conflict or thread crap

BlueFox

Three posts just to answer a reasonable question? If somebody buys this then they might want to sell it in the future. So, what are they supposed to say when asked the same question? "Well, the person I bought it from said it is authentic, and I trusted them."

pglbook

I do not agree. He could have simply asked if there was a COA or other documentation. And that would have been fine and I would have understood and answered. But no, he had begin with, "not that I do not believe you" and to further say that "it could be a seat from any ballpark from that era." That is different than merely asking about documentation which I understand and respect. But, the way it was worded, it was not asking about a COA or documentation, but questioning authenticity. That is the way I interpreted it.

DaveHo

Sorry, Peter, didn't mean to piss you off. But as a few others have mentioned, anyone who buys this may want to resell it in the future, and without docs of some kind, it becomes harder to prove it's worth. I meant no disrespect. Carry on...

pglbook

DaveHo, I understand and perhaps overreacted but the way I read your post was more about questioning authenticity than merely asking about a COA or documentation. I am sorry for any offense or misinterpretation on my part.

In 1973, when my father bought the seats for my brother and I, there did not exist a billion dollar sports memorabilia market like today. There was no such thing as a Certificate of Authenticity or other documentation in 1973. No original Yankees Stadium seat will have one because such things did not exist in 1973 when they sold these seats. And, if you do find one with a COA you can be sure it is a fake COA because, again, there was no sports memorabilia market at the time. That is why, in 1973, they were giving these seats away for $25 and 5 empty packets of cigarettes. There were no buyers. Things have sure changed.

BlueFox

pglbook wrote: »

That is why, in 1973, they were giving these seats away for $25 and 5 empty packets of cigarettes. There were no buyers. Things have sure changed.

I'll give you $50, and a carton of Marlboros.

Toolfan66

pglbook wrote: »

This is a site of honorable folks and I would never post anything that was not authentic and do not appreciate the post about its authenticity.

I think the question was legit, saying you do appreciate the post is, well kinda prickish IMO. At the end of the day it's still the Internet, and buyers should always be aware, and have a right to ask questions..



:rolleyes:

Toolfan66

pglbook wrote: »

Moderators, please remove this listing from sale. Apparently some ignorant member questions the authenticity of the item although I can ensure you it is the real deal.

I would never buy from you on this post alone.. WOW, JUST WOW!!

B Run

Yeah man sorry to say it but don't you watch pawn stars? I believe you and it looks legit, but it loses value without proper documentation. I think you could probably send it some where and have them verify that it's legit for you and get even more for it, but without that it's hard to ask that much. No offense but it was a legit question.

zeppage2

There are a number of seats from the old Yankee Stadium on eBay right now with at least one offering a COA.
A COA can be obtained for a fee from a sports memorabilia expert.
For the money you are asking...

pglbook

I agree that the question was legit and I had no problem with the question at all. And I should have mentioned the lack of a COA or documentation in my original op. I overlooked that and am glad someone brought it to my attention.

As I said, I guess I misinterpreted it and am sorry but on first reading it come across not as a mere question about documentation but more about doubting authenticity..

And it is true that one can get a COA now if one wanted. And I guess I should do so.
The reason I had not done so in the past is because I never thought I would sell this and I did not need confirmation for myself.

pglbook

If there is any interest at all at this point, what I will do is, prior to finalizing any sale, I will take the seat to Cooperstown, NY, the home of the Hall of Fame and the birthplace of baseball (or so says the myth), and get a COA to prove the authenticity of the seat. Cooperstown is only about an hour and a half from me. I fully understand concerns about documentation and this way there will be a COA that comes along with the seat.

Also, I am open to reasonable offers if there is any interest.

Thanks.

decal

pglbook wrote: »

Moderators, please remove this listing from sale. Apparently some ignorant member questions the authenticity of the item although I can ensure you it is the real deal.

What a dick head post.

shawn474

pglbook wrote: »

If there is any interest at all at this point, what I will do is, prior to finalizing any sale, I will take the seat to Cooperstown, NY, the home of the Hall of Fame and the birthplace of baseball (or so says the myth), and get a COA to prove the authenticity of the seat. Cooperstown is only about an hour and a half from me. I fully understand concerns about documentation and this way there will be a COA that comes along with the seat.

Also, I am open to reasonable offers if there is any interest.

Thanks.

I have done a lot of buying, trading and selling sports memorabilia. Honestly, the COA is the most important piece. You, in my opinion, should do this before offering the item for sale. It legitimizes the item; in this day and age of knock-offs and dishonest people, it eases the prospect of dropping 2 grand on something like this. Your response was one of defensiveness and ignorance. For you to not understand that $2k is a big deal for most people and the request was simply asking for authenticity is crazy to me. The buying and selling business is mostly made up of relationships and trust - you as the seller must initiate the trust by doing everything you can to put to rest any questions from a potential buyer. From your post, I would never buy this item. Mostly because of your post, but also because I am an Orioles fan! :razz:

Also, just so you are aware, the companies that issue COA's are a dime a dozen. There are only a few reputable ones out there. IF you can get Cooperstown to verify its authenticity (which i am not sure is possible), it will likely cost you a pretty penny, which could eat up a significant portion of your selling price.

Before you go off on a rant telling me how disrespectful I am, I trust you that it is authentic. I am just giving you real life experience in this type of transaction. No disrespect is intended or implied ; just calling it like I see it.

GLWS

rtart

pglbook wrote: »

You know, I love this site and the people on here but this has been the first time that I have been pissed off by a CP member's comments because I think it is total BS for DaveHo to question my integrity and question the authenticity of the Yankees Stadium seat I am offering for sale. Basically, he is questioning my integrity and I think that is total is BS. Not appreciated at all, man.

I have sold and bought quite a few things on here and have participated a lot to this forum and have had great discussions with lots of people since I joined about 8 months ago.

I am sorry you had doubts and felt the need to question my honesty, DaveHo. I always thought this site was a community where all trusted each other and I think I earned that respect. But I guess Dave did not think so.

I'm on the side of DaveHo asking, politely in my opinion, about the authenticity of this item. He did not state that he did not believe you, actually quite the opposite, and asking $2k for an item without a COA seems to ask a lot for a stranger's faith in your word. By your own admission, you only joined the forum 8 months ago, and your seller feedback score is zero. None of these facts indicates that you are not a stand-up guy, completely honest, and that the seat is exactly what you say it is. Neither, however, do they indicate that you and it are/is. I've been a member for many years, and would not expect anyone to believe anything that I could not prove. If they asked, I'd answer - politely.

The concern I have is with your response to a legitimate question, presented in a polite, non-accusatory manner. The term Caveat Emptor means 'may the buyer beware.' A possible buyer asked a fair question, and might have bought your item.

pglbook

I agree about the COA. I should have gotten one prior to posting it. I will get one in Cooperstown.

I am truly sorry for having offended any members on here. That was not my intention. This is a great site and I enjoy being a part of it. I reacted to what I interpreted as a question raising a doubt of authenticity about an item I have for sale. I misinterpreted the post by DaveHo (I sent him a pm apologizing) and was wrong to have reacted in the way that I did..

decal, the only reason I posted about removing the item from sale is because if anyone questioned its authenticity, which I thought they had, I did not want to have any item listed on here that had any doubts attached to it so I thought it was the prudent thing to do.

rtart, I completely agree with your post. Regarding the zero seller feedback score, I have sold (and bought) a number of items on here and everyone who has bought anything from me has been very satisfied. The reason I have a zero seller feedback rating is that it is my understanding that the feedback rating system has not been in use for some time.

Again, my apologies to all. Hopefully we can put this to rest and move on.

Have a nice Sunday!

shawn474

Rick88 wrote: »

I believe this whole thing was just a misunderstanding, and I truly believe you are very sincere in your apology...

Good luck with the sale!!

+1.....carry on with the sale of a cool piece of memorabilia......

Drenis

Wow, another DAMF here on CP.

Don't expect ANYONE to buy anything from you in the future. Ever. If you lose your cool and blow up for someone asking a legit question which, hey guess what!? YOU HAVE TO PROVE by the way. That's right. In today's market, it's all about documentation and proof. Even if it's signed off and documented by a professional to show that it's in fact a historical item as described. Some may not care but again, what right do you have to bust a guys balls for asking a legitimate question?

Just wow. You deserve to be on everyones bozo list.

halo71

Dude apologized for being a ****. Just let it go man.....let it go.....

vmaxer

halo71 wrote: »

Dude apologized for being a ****. Just let it go man.....let it go.....

Agree, we all make some mistakes.