Amp/Reciever to Power Monitor 70s?
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Tornado Red wrote: »I like what Geoff said here. I have the Monitor 70t as fronts in a 7.1 set up. They're the best...in the new Monitor series, for the price I paid I have no delusions about them. I was running everything with a Pioneer SC-61 and then added a 3 channel amp (xpa-3) for the 70s and a 25c center channel. Seems to be lots of talk about loudness and DBs with the higher watts. I didn't really buy the amp for that, I was hoping I'd get a better quality sound, at the same listening (loudness) level. And it certainly did, the improved sound stage and nuances from instruments in some high quality source material made me very pleased with the purchase. Don't own any meters, just picked up some tips from CP, made a few purchases then sat back with my eyes closed and listened. Perhaps ignorance is bliss, but I'm pretty happy
Yes.. but without real "tools" or "equipment" or "fact" or whatever that yahoo was touting, you're just giving unbacked opinion.....
However, your experience is exactly what I base a lot of what I say on. I read all of your experiences, combine them with mine, and try to give the best explanation based on that to noobs.Main Surround -
Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub
Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250
Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD -
Amen to that.
Anyway, what say we move on. I think the young lad had enough tongue lashings for one day. Tomorrow we can start all over again.:cheesygrin:
Agreed, on to bigger and better things.Main Surround -
Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub
Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250
Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD -
I hate to even wade into this...but I like the way my 70s sound on my TFM-45. I ran them on my A753x also...but to me and my own personal preference and experience...the 70s love the juice."Making life enjoyable through expensive electronics." BillD
Pioneer Elite SC-57
M70 series 2 mains
CS2 center
M40 surround
M30 front height
SVS PB 12 NSD
Carver TFM-45 (mains)
Carver A753x (center, surround)
320GB PS3, 42" Panasonic G10,
M60's as a Zone 2 off of the Pioneer in the living room
R.I.P. Onkyo TX-NR807 -
ibewbrother wrote: »personal preference and experience...the 70s love the juice.
Most of the 70 owners I know would agree with youSource: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
I assure you chief, I'm well aware of how it all works when it comes to power.
Your taking some comments too seriously. While some of what you say may be true, it's more so common knowledge that doesn't bear repeating in every thread. We've covered power/watts/current....more times than fly's chasing Lady Gaga with her meat outfit on.
That said, everyone's listening habits are different and so are the needs for power. Any speaker can benefit from more current and that applies to more than loudness. Will a lot of extra power go unused ? Yeah, possibly so....but that's an individual decision. Power is used for more than the amount of DB's you can push out your speakers. But then, most here know this and every comment about amps doesn't require a tutorial.
Well said Tony.
The biggest benefits of having a lot of power to drive your speakers is for greater clarity in instruments, vocals, and bass. It allows your speakers to operate to their full potential. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Now here is a quote I saved since it gave such a nice concise answer.
So this is for you Yahoo. Now I'm going to put you on ignore, since you are simply here to cause trouble. I suggest the rest of you do the same. Without an audience he will crawl back into the uninformed hole he crawled out of.
From your friends at about.com
Quote:
Q. Will My High-Powered Amp Blow My Speakers
From Apply Now,
Your Guide to Stereos.
A. Many people wonder if an amplifier can blow their speakers when delivering full power to the speakers. The short answer is "No." The long answer is "well, if your amplifier is high-quality, you are OK." With power-handling, a higher rating is like almost everything else: more is always better. A speaker might have a minimum requirement for power handling, based on its sensitivity and performance, but will most likely have a maximum allowable amount.
A speaker with a 100 watt power handling rating can be safely operated when connected to a 500 watt amplifier. The speaker is not going to explode or anything like that. The truth is that high amplifier power almost never destroys a speaker. In most cases, it is a lack of amplifier power that causes damage. The key is to use your speakers with an amplifier that produces sufficient output to drive the speakers to realistic sound volumes without distortion, or "clipping."
Clipping occurs when the amp is asked to deliver more current to a speaker than the amp is really capable of doing. When an amplifier clips, it literally cuts off (or ... clips) the tops and bottoms of the musical waveforms that its trying to reproduce. This phenomenon introduces a huge amount of distortion into the output signal, and it is that distortion that kills speakers. The maximum power-handling amount stated on a speaker basically assumes that the amplifier is going to "clip" or start to produce distortion at its maximum output. So, if you use a low-quality amplifier, it will start to run out of gas at its max output, and might do damage to your speakers.
A high-quality amp usually produces ample power without clipping and thus it avoids the introduction of speaker-killing distortion.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
I put him on ignore two pages ago lol.Main Surround -
Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub
Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250
Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD -
ibewbrother wrote: »the 70s love the juice.
That just doesn't sound right!AVR: DENON X4000
FRONT L/R: ARX A3RX-C
CENTER: ARX A2RX-C
SURROUND L/R: ARX A3
SUBWOOFER: PSA-XV15
SERVER: UNRAID 15TB
MEDIA PLAYERS: DUNE SMART SERIES D1
HDTV: VIZIO M601D-A3R -
How about....I can peak the meters on that 45 and the 70s just rock on... sure ..it is hearing damage level....but the speakers just do their thing..."Making life enjoyable through expensive electronics." BillD
Pioneer Elite SC-57
M70 series 2 mains
CS2 center
M40 surround
M30 front height
SVS PB 12 NSD
Carver TFM-45 (mains)
Carver A753x (center, surround)
320GB PS3, 42" Panasonic G10,
M60's as a Zone 2 off of the Pioneer in the living room
R.I.P. Onkyo TX-NR807