Marantz SR7005 won't play 192hz FLAC's?!

Inspector 24
Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
edited August 2013 in Going Digital
This was a disappointing discovery! It was easy to assume that their top of the line AVR touted as being all sorts of musical would play anything! Especially since I just dropped $150 on HDtracks.com!!!

Upon further research it appears Yamaha's mid-range RX-A1020/30 will play 192hz FLAC's? If I want a Marantz to do that I have to step up to the AV7701? Ugh. No thanks.

And I just bought a Panny DMP-BDT220 because I thought I didn't need the 192/42 DAC's in the BDT500. Boy was I wrong!

Marantz, I want my cake and I want to eat it.

Sincerely, me.
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited June 2013
    Sometimes companies use there Brand name to make you think that you are getting "the Best" I am highly skeptical of most every company (China) these days. Tell us, will it play them at all? And if so at what rate.

    Please see page 29....looks like 96 is the max

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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited June 2013
    Yeah, browsing through the manual I found that and about shat myself!

    Could not believe it....

    Had it less than a year...it may be for sale very soon...
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited June 2013
    It's always something.... you get this or get that... then guess what ??? There It Is!!!!!:cheesygrin:
    Yeah, browsing through the manual I found that and about shat myself!

    Could not believe it....

    Had it less than a year...it may be for sale very soon...
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
  • GFOviedo
    GFOviedo Posts: 352
    edited August 2013
    I was thinking of buying a Marantz until I saw the Costco sale for the Pioneer SC-1522-K for $599.99, which by the way does states it play FLACS / 192hz.

    I've never owned a Pioneer AVR, and I am very happy with it! I still want to get a Marantz just because I like the way it looks lol. I might get a lower model for the garage.
    AVR: DENON X4000
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited August 2013
    Ill sell you mine. Serious. 1.5 years old, all original box, packing materials, remote, manual, mic, everything.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2013
    You're better off using an external DAC and going analog out to the Marantz anyway.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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  • GFOviedo
    GFOviedo Posts: 352
    edited August 2013
    Ill sell you mine. Serious. 1.5 years old, all original box, packing materials, remote, manual, mic, everything.

    I don't need it right at this moment!
    AVR: DENON X4000
    FRONT L/R: ARX A3RX-C
    CENTER: ARX A2RX-C
    SURROUND L/R: ARX A3
    SUBWOOFER: PSA-XV15

    SERVER: UNRAID 15TB
    MEDIA PLAYERS: DUNE SMART SERIES D1
    HDTV: VIZIO M601D-A3R
  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,471
    edited August 2013
    You're better off using an external DAC and going analog out to the Marantz anyway.

    Problem is with most processors, unless you are running everything as large, this will cause two additional conversions so it can do bass management. Unless the Marantz does that in the analog domain, which would be unusual in this day & age.
  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2013
    DaveHo wrote: »
    Problem is with most processors, unless you are running everything as large, this will cause two additional conversions so it can do bass management. Unless the Marantz does that in the analog domain, which would be unusual in this day & age.

    We're talking music here, right? Should be Direct anyway. All processors off: EQ off, DSPs off... 2-channel only. If you're not running it pure like this, then there's no point in playing 192khz files in the first place. My 2 cents.

    And even if you were running it pure like that...

    There's a reason a lot of folks have separate music setups and HT setups... because HT gear is not optimized for ultimate fidelity. No benefit in running a 192khz file through a receiver if you ask me.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    edited August 2013
    There's a reason a lot of folks have separate music setups and HT setups... because HT gear is not optimized for ultimate fidelity. No benefit in running a 192khz file through a receiver if you ask me.

    True, but not everyone has the room or coinage for both. You can get good sound for music from an AVR, I wouldn't poo-poo that idea, but surely a separate 2 channel rig would be best for overall sound quality. Like everything else...it depends.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    True, but not everyone has the room or coinage for both. You can get good sound for music from an AVR, I wouldn't poo-poo that idea, but surely a separate 2 channel rig would be best for overall sound quality. Like everything else...it depends.

    Tony I'm not poo-poo'ing the use of a HT rig for music at all. I do it all the time, and I love it, and I think it sounds EXCELLENT... highly enjoyable! I'm just saying it's not high enough fidelity for me to care, or even notice, if I'm playing a 192 or 96 or 44.1 file. The difference is not appreciable... especially if you have DSPs and EQs enabled on the receiver or pre/pro.

    I'm just sayin' that dude shouldn't be stressed about no 192 capability on the Marantz because it doesn't matter anyway. I could see it mattering if he had certain albums ONLY at 192 and had no way to play them; that would be annoying for sure. I don't know what his source is for these FLAC files, but if it's a PC, he could just set his media player to output a lower resolution.

    When I use my HT rig for music I actually DO use DSP's, EQ's etc for 5.1 channel playback because I like the surround experience, and I'm not overly concerned with ultimate fidelity in that rig... it's a "fun" rig, not a "critical" rig... which is why it doesn't matter if I'm playing 192's or 44.1's... as long as they're lossless. :cool:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    edited August 2013
    Gotcha pal, and actually I agree with your assessment.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

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    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's