clairty vs sonos caps

soundfreak1
soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
edited June 2013 in Vintage Speakers
Opinions welcome as to sonos vs clairity caps for pair of rta12c's.
Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited May 2013
    Do you mean Clarity and Sonicaps?
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,442
    edited May 2013
    you cannot go wrong with either. So let price and availability be your guide.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited May 2013
    Just found madisound is having a close out on clairty SA caps (40% off) sooooooo. Claitry SA's will do just fine!.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • lanchile
    lanchile Posts: 560
    edited May 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    Just found madisound is having a close out on clairty SA caps (40% off) sooooooo. Claitry SA's will do just fine!.
    Go for them!!!!they are very good caps!
    Make it simple...Make it better!
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited May 2013
    Also, diycable.com is going out of business and have some Carity and Erse caps on closeout.

    http://www.diycable.com/main/default.php
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited May 2013
    ClarityCaps are awesome
    Jake
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  • canadianicon25
    canadianicon25 Posts: 200
    edited May 2013
    is the claritycap blowout listed somewhere on madisound's website?
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  • StantonZ
    StantonZ Posts: 444
    edited May 2013
    canadianicon25 wrote: »
    is the claritycap blowout listed somewhere on madisound's website?

    There's a link at the top of the cap page (looks out of place). They're for the high-voltage caps, which are large. I don't regret getting my SoniCaps.
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    Polk CS300 center channel
    Analog: B&O TX2 Turntable, Nakamichi Cassette Deck 1
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited May 2013
    canadianicon25 wrote: »
    is the claritycap blowout listed somewhere on madisound's website?
    The closeout is on the SA'S and ERSA 600+ Volts only.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited May 2013
    Picked up all caps ( clairty SA ) for the rta12c's for 336.88 from. Madisound at 40% off. Now, wire, terminators, risistors, t-nuts, ect, ect.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited June 2013
    If you got enough to do both the upper and lower Xovers you made out like a bandit!
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited June 2013
    Looks like Madisound is clearing out its MR's.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2013
    drumminman wrote: »
    If you got enough to do both the upper and lower Xovers you made out like a bandit!

    Got them all:
    8x 25uf
    8x 2.2uf fof the 27uf's

    8x 2.2uf. For the 4.4's

    2x 50uf
    2x 4.7's for the 55uf's
    All for 336.86
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited June 2013
    2.2uf fof the 27uf's

    I'll presume that is suppose to be 2.7uF and not 27uF. Your value choice is minus 18% out of spec and you will hear that.
    4.7's for the 55uf's

    Again, I'll presume that is suppose to be 5.5uF and not 55uF. Your value choice is minus 14% out of spec and you will hear that too.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    I'll presume that is suppose to be 2.7uF and not 27uF. Your value choice is minus 18% out of spec and you will hear that.



    Again, I'll presume that is suppose to be 5.5uF and not 55uF. Yo

    ur value choice is minus 14% out of spec and you will hear that too.


    No... 25uf and 2.2 will give me 27.2 for the 27 uf caps
    The 50 uf and the 4,7 for the 55uf
    8x 2.2 will give me the 4x 4.4uf
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • canadianicon25
    canadianicon25 Posts: 200
    edited June 2013
    yup. parallel wiring.
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited June 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    No... 25uf and 2.2 will give me 27.2 for the 27 uf caps
    The 50 uf and the 4,7 for the 55uf
    8x 2.2 will give me the 4x 4.4uf
    2.2 X 2 is fine, but 25 +2.2 and 50 + 4.7 really isn't the best way to parallel caps. A 12 and a 15, would have been better, and a 25 and 30 for the other. Always try to keep the values close when making up an odd size.
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    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2013
    westmassguy wrote: »
    2.2 X 2 is fine, but 25 +2.2 and 50 + 4.7 really isn't the best way to parallel caps. A 12 and a 15, would have been better, and a 25 and 30 for the other. Always try to keep the values close when making up an odd size.

    I will try this again, i need 8x 27. uf caps
    4x 4.4 uf caps
    2x55uf caps.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • StantonZ
    StantonZ Posts: 444
    edited June 2013
    westmassguy wrote: »
    2.2 X 2 is fine, but 25 +2.2 and 50 + 4.7 really isn't the best way to parallel caps. A 12 and a 15, would have been better, and a 25 and 30 for the other. Always try to keep the values close when making up an odd size.

    I didn't want to say anything because he was after a good deal on the caps, but I agree. I actually paid (Sonic Craft) a little extra get a 34 uF cap instead of putting 2x17 uF in parallel, and I'm really glad I did because it would have been difficult to fit them on the board (it was hard enough to fit the one).
    Yamaha RX-A2050 AVR (5.0.2); LG OLED77C2 4K TV
    (4) Polk Monitor 10B's w/SoniCaps, Mills, and RDO-194 tweets (R/L F/R)
    (2) Polk RC80i (Top Middle)
    Polk CS300 center channel
    Analog: B&O TX2 Turntable, Nakamichi Cassette Deck 1
    Digital: Pioneer CLD-99 Elite LD, Panasonic DMP-UB900 UHD Blu-Ray
    Bedroom: Arylic Up2Stream AMPv3 driving Polk Monitor 4's w/peerless tweets
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited June 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    No... 25uf and 2.2 will give me 27.2 for the 27 uf caps
    The 50 uf and the 4,7 for the 55uf
    8x 2.2 will give me the 4x 4.4uf

    Ah my mistake, sorry.

    However, westmassguy is right. By using small values with much larger values the small value cap acts as a bypass cap, which will impart unwanted artifacts to the sound.
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  • cincycat13
    cincycat13 Posts: 882
    edited June 2013
    I see you went with the Clarity SA. The sale has me considering modding the maple LSi9s I have. Any thoughts on the ESA vs SA with the sale pricing?
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2013
    cincycat13 wrote: »
    I see you went with the Clarity SA. The sale has me considering modding the maple LSi9s I have. Any thoughts on the ESA vs SA with the sale pricing?

    Im not sure of the diff. myself. Went with tje SA'S due to past experience with them and the 40% off sure helped as well! Saved about 150.00 on the order ( RTA'S have 14 caps in them! )
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited June 2013
    40% off doesn't mean squat when you don't get the right stuff.....just saying.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • cincycat13
    cincycat13 Posts: 882
    edited June 2013
    wow...that was fast...
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  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    edited June 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    40% off doesn't mean squat when you don't get the right stuff.....just saying.
    I have, on occasion, disagreed strenuously with F1nut.

    In this case, he's ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2013
    Ok doea this sound better:
    Esa 33 & Esav22 fir the 55 cap

    Esa 2.2 + Esa 2.2 for the 4.4

    And in yhe Esa line they have the 27 uf for the rest.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited June 2013
    Yes, much better. :smile:
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2013
    Ok order corrected. Thanks. Also have the hurricane nuts ( no spikes on them) and neutrik connectors for the connector between upper xover and lower one.mills risistors new 5 way binding posts gold slip on terminators. After that new grill cloth all around and spikes for the risors.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited June 2013
    You're gonna love 'em when you get the mods done.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited June 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    Ok doea this sound better:
    Esa 33 & Esav22 fir the 55 cap

    Esa 2.2 + Esa 2.2 for the 4.4

    And in yhe Esa line they have the 27 uf for the rest.
    Not to beat a dead horse, but you could have used 2 x 27uf for the 55ufs. That would have put you within 2% of the original spec.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
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