Old Fisher speakers maybe? Anyone recognize these?

Jimbo18

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/msg/3813876568.html

That's one heck of a lot of drivers packed into those cabinets.

custopper30

I think the bottom corner the tag says yamaha, but I could be wrong

Jimbo18

custopper30 wrote: »

I think the bottom corner the tag says yamaha, but I could be wrong

I saw the badge but my eyes aren't good anymore to make it out. I don't think it does say Fisher, but the grills have that kind of look to them. Or like a vintage Sansui. Pretty darn big looking speakers that might be fun to check out. Of course, driving them might be a problem.

George Grand

Cabinet not big enough for woofer.

cnh

Yamaha? How can you READ that? I blew it up 400 percent and it was still at too low a resolution to decide what it was?

In any case, these are vintage "Kabuki" speakers as George is suggesting above. Sansui, Pioneer, Kenwood, etc. Many manufacturers (Japanese) made these back in the day--low wattage multi-multi driver speakers with ONE big but flimsy woofer (usually a SMALL magnet structure that didn't pump out much low end bass). In cabinets that were far too small for all that was going on in the front baffle.

You'd be better off with some CLASSIC speakers from that era by AR, KLH, Advent, Allison, Bozak, Dynaco, EPI etc. Better "drivers", cabs, crossovers. Better EVERYTHING!

And don't forget the classic Polk MONITOR series: 5, 7 and 10s (12s)! Monitor 10s would slap the BASS right out of those speakers!

cnh

Jimbo18

Thanks for the info, I wasn't all that interested in them, just curious as to what they were. The comment about too many drivers and too small of a cabinet looks to be right on. I learn something new on this site every time I read it.

I am very happy with my Monitor 7's, both the C's and the 7's with the Peerless tweeters. Before buying any other older speakers, I would like to get the older 7's fitted with upgraded caps and resistors. But I can't afford it right now and don't have the expertise to do it myself anyway.

westmassguy

George Grand wrote: »

Cabinet not big enough for woofer.

Don't be too hasty with that, those have rolled paper surrounds. There's very little cone movement, and the VAS is very small for that type of driver. Don't expect much output below 50-60 Hz though. As far as the other drivers, most likely sealed backs on them.

George Grand

westmassguy wrote: »

Don't be too hasty with that, those have rolled paper surrounds. There's very little cone movement, and the VAS is very small for that type of driver. Don't expect much output below 50-60 Hz though. As far as the other drivers, most likely sealed backs on them.

Those appear to be 15" or 12" woofers. Sorry chief, but from a competent designer and 12 or 15" woofers, I expect a little something below 50 or 60 cycles (low 30's at least), and so should anybody else in their right mind.

Jimbo18

I called the owner to find out what they are and he didn't know. I think he said he hadn't looked at them in a long time they are "out there in the building" or something like that. There's a bad storm rolling through and the reception was terrible.

I don't have room for them, but would have liked to at least find out more about them. And I was guessing a 15" woofer based on the apparent width of the cabinets.

mhardy6647

It's not a Yamaha - to their credit, they pretty much resisted the aforementioned "Kabuki" fashion of the early 1970s.
... and (not surprisingly) George is right; those drivers need a much larger box to have anything like proper damping/maximum possible extension. The big woofer in a small box represents a high Qtc and the characteristic whoompa-whoompa-whump that passes for bass (even today) in some circles.

I think that the label says COLUMBIA - which might be Denon (which was known at one time to the home market as Nippon Columbia). They could also be Japanese OEM for Columbia (i.e., the record company, who did sell some Columbia branded components now and again).

The Denons I see at http://www.audio-heritage.jp/DENON/index.html are somewhat less atrocious than the present example (FWIW).

George Grand

"2Great sounding spears no where to put need to sail..."

Do you really want to meet this guy over a pair of speakers? He can't remember the name? Tell him to go back "out in the building" and maybe the other one will fall on his head too. When he gets off the floor he can look at the placard and get back to you OVER THE PHONE.

Jimbo18

George Grand wrote: »

"2Great sounding spears no where to put need to sail..."

Do you really want to meet this guy over a pair of speakers? He can't remember the name? Tell him to go back "out in the building" and maybe the other one will fall on his head too. When he gets off the floor he can look at the placard and get back to you OVER THE PHONE.

ROTFL

George Grand

Bottom line? You're looking at ONE of the reasons Acoustic Research sold more than a few pairs of 4x spears.

Jimbo18

George Grand wrote: »

Bottom line? You're looking at ONE of the reasons Acoustic Research sold more than a few pairs of 4x spears.

hey, I loved my AR 4ax's. Wish I had kept them.

halo71

George Grand wrote: »

"2Great sounding spears no where to put need to sail..."

Do you really want to meet this guy over a pair of speakers? He can't remember the name? Tell him to go back "out in the building" and maybe the other one will fall on his head too. When he gets off the floor he can look at the placard and get back to you OVER THE PHONE.

lol.....nail sunk on that!

mhardy6647

Those weird little metal cone "supertweeters" were also used on numerous Criterion branded loudspeakers sold by Lafayette in the olden days.