SDA/RTA efficiency

i4gotmyid
i4gotmyid Posts: 173
edited December 2003 in Speakers
does anyone know the efficiency of the following models:

SDA CRS+ blade/blade model
SDA 1c Studio
SDA SRS 2.3
RTA 11T
RTA 12c

I believe the 2.3 was like 87dbl/w but the other two i am not sure of.

any help would be nice
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited December 2003
    All of these efficiency specs come from Polk brochures:

    SDA CRS+ blade/blade model-- 92dB
    SDA 1c Studio
    90db
    SDA SRS 2.3
    90dB or 91dB**
    RTA 11T
    90dB
    RTA 12c
    92dB


    **I have two Polk brochures which contain the SDA SRS 2.3. One gives the efficiency of the SDA SRS 2.3 as 90 dB and the other gives the efficiency as 91 dB. Both figures may be accurate depending on when a particular set of speakers were manufactured.

    My owner's manual for the SRS 2.3 does not list a figure for efficiency in the specifications!!
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  • i4gotmyid
    i4gotmyid Posts: 173
    edited December 2003
    If this is for

    each individual speaker or for the pair
    in an real room or freestanding space measurement
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited December 2003
    Well, the industry "standard" way of measuring efficiency is in an anechoic chamber with a calibrated microphone one meter in front of one speaker, with the speaker given one watt of input.

    However, speaker efficiency ratings, like amplifier power ratings, are arrived at by different means by different manufacturers.

    Ken Swauger in Polk's customer service department should be able to tell you how Polk measures efficiency for their speakers.
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  • i4gotmyid
    i4gotmyid Posts: 173
    edited December 2003
    I read elsewhere that the 1C's were 92dbs is that the "home" version? and the studio's were 90dbs? If there is a difference, does that mean that the studio and home version were not the same speaker?
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited December 2003
    The SDA 1B had an efficiency of 92 dB. I have never seen a listed efficiency rating of 92 dB for the 1C in any of the Polk literature.

    The only difference between the "studio" version 1C and the "home" version 1C was the cabinet exteriors. The studio version was clad in black vinyl and had no oak end caps. The home version had heavy, 1 inch thick solid oak caps on the tops and bottoms of the cabinets. The home 1C weighed 100 pounds per speaker and the
    studio 1C weighed 85 pounds. The two versions were identical with respect to drivers and crossover components.
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  • i4gotmyid
    i4gotmyid Posts: 173
    edited December 2003
    i thought so...i automatically thought that guy was wrong cause if anyone knows its you, but i thought i would check with you to make sure.

    so the 20lbs diff is the oak end caps and cloth? thats some heavy end caps.
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited December 2003
    Originally posted by i4gotmyid
    so the 20lbs diff is the oak end caps and cloth? thats some heavy end caps.

    There is only 15 lbs difference between the home and studio version.

    You bring up an interesting question. I did the following exercise to see if the end caps of the 1C could account for the total weight differential.

    Dry oak has a weight of 59 lbs per cubic foot. If we take a solid oak cube of one cubic foot and slice it into 12 one inch thick boards measuring 12 inches by 12 inches, each individual board would weigh 4.92 pounds (59 divided by 12). Each board would have a volume of 144 cubic inches.

    The oak end caps of an SDA 1C speaker measures 1 inch by 11.5 inches by 16.5 inches, which equals 189.75 cubic inches. Therefore, the 1C end caps are 32% greater in volume than a 1" x 12" x 12" board.

    Multiplying 4.92 pounds by 1.32 gives 6.49 pounds for an unfinished SDA 1C end cap. Two of these unfinished caps would add 12.98 pounds to a 1C cabinet. I assume the other 2.02 pounds can be accounted for by the eight large metal bolts (4 on top and 4 on bottom), the several coats of stain and finish on each end cap, and the additional cloth on the sides of cabinet.



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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,707
    edited December 2003
    Raife,

    You really have to much time on your hands.....;)

    FWIW, I noticed on Doro's 1C's that Polk applied the end caps and side boards (for the cloth) right over the black vinyl. Those side boards have to weigh a pound each, it adds up quickly.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited December 2003
    Originally posted by F1nut
    Raife,

    You really have to much time on your hands.....;)

    You're absolutely right. I'm off from work until Jan 12th, 2004! :D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,707
    edited December 2003
    Ah, that explains it! The amp is on it's way, you'll have plenty of time to listen and enjoy it.
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  • i4gotmyid
    i4gotmyid Posts: 173
    edited December 2003
    man you are awesome