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warviper
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wow i have always stuck to the never turn it past half way mark on my avr and i just realized that my avrs max is 0 db does that mean that -50db is half i have been listining at -25 dbs with no distortion sounds alll clean no clip im so confused. the only reason i found out was i went out and bought a spl meter and am going to start to calibrate please respond.
hanging on every word
war
p.s my avr is the yamy rx-2300
hanging on every word
war
p.s my avr is the yamy rx-2300
Wish I was a polkologist then I could call my self Dr.warviper.
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The numbers dont mean anything other than as a reference. From what I understand though, -22dB ( or every three dBs) will be twice as much power as your usual listening level of -25dB if that helps. I could be wrong though.Graham
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uhhh how can the numbers not mean anything?
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The numbers are a REFERENCE POINT, same as 1-10 on some volume controls. You've been doing the right thing, don't go past halfway and everything will be fine.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Different manufacturers use different volume settings on their receivers. This can be kind of confusing to the user really. Like F1 said though it is all a reference point. Some manufacturers like Rotel and Onkyo use the increasing volume numbers. B&K and I believe Denon use the decreasing volume with negative and positives.
I had a Yamaha RX-V1300 earlier this year and yes depending on the recording -30 db was still clean but past -25 db I would start hearing some compression of the music. Your 2300 may sport some better amps but no way that you can go all the way to 0 on your receiver. For your receiver you are going to have to pick a volume close to 85 db when you calibrate using one of the calibration DVDs and adjust your other speakers accordingly to this "reference" volume setting. It may well be around -35 db or something like that.
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glad to here you have own a yamaha my main question is that there is a bar graph under the volume and then there are the -db thing to my best judgement half way on the graph is -14db so is that to high thats way too loud for me i just want some peace of mind. thank you paul, f1, gate please repost if i have clarified my amp.Wish I was a polkologist then I could call my self Dr.warviper.
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As mentioned above, the dB labeling is pretty meaningless. The reason being different sources, ie. CD Player, DVD, etc, will all have different input levels. The only way to avoid clipping (without having true clipping indicators) is by listening. When the material begins to sound "stressed" "disorganized" or you hear even a hint of cone break-up..the amp is clipping.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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ohh ok what about the graph then?Wish I was a polkologist then I could call my self Dr.warviper.
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Eff the graph! Just relax and listen to the music.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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The "graph" is "eye-candy" for the general population. Kinda like the spectrum analyzers Kenwood sold in the early 80's that had no pink-noise generator built-in, they looked really cool, but they were useless.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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Im gonna do more research. Thanx for the input but efing the graph doesnt make sense. Sounds funny but doesnt make any sense. I think it has to do with the fact that for every 3 db boost in sound you need to like double the watts. Thats why at -50 db its only at a quarter on the graph and at -25 dbs it at half on the graph and it takes half the graph to go the last 14 dbs cause double 20 wats is way less than double 50 watts. lol I hope this is making some sense.
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Do a search for calibration and there are some very complete threads in that regard. Channel balance and calibrate your system to Reference Level with a test disc and a SPL meter and get back to us if you have any questions."What we do in life echoes in eternity"
Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
Director - Technology and Customer Service
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hey doc i got a spl meter and a the video esentials discs do you have any experience with it.Wish I was a polkologist then I could call my self Dr.warviper.
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Originally posted by warviper
hey doc i got a spl meter and a the video esentials discs do you have any experience with it.
He wrote the book. Do a search, you'll probably find 1000 threads
