XPR-1 Review for EMO fans

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2013
    Most of you people posting here are extremely contradictory in your postings
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2013
    Most of you people posting h here are extremely contradictory in
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2013
    DSkip wrote: »
    Everything OK Down By The River?

    Yep stupid Mobil app!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited May 2013
    All AH reviews are crap excepting the glowing one on the Polk LSiM. That one is spot on :cheesygrin:
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited May 2013
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Yep stupid Mobil app!

    Try upgrading the charging cable or my new superdeluxe $3000 txting app.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited May 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    It would seem to me that a review which starts with Although it lacks the snob appeal of some of the expensive and prestigious brands is either pushing an agenda, or trying to rationalize some unstated shortcomings.

    I just laughed when I saw that line and closed the window; can't continue reading a review that is that biased.
    Jake
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited May 2013
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Yep stupid Mobil app!

    Try getting this screw out of where it's fallen to, and then actually putting it where it's supposed to go in my BMW! I'd take a picture, bu I can't even get the right angle or enough light to where it's located. Cars are fun fun fun!:mad:
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited May 2013
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Most of you people posting here are extremely contradictory in your postings
    So are you calling me out or the majority of the posters on this forum? Tell us(you people) how and what we should post. Give us something!
    DSkip wrote: »
    Summarized it for you.
    Same to you DSkip. You don't like what I am posting, stop the sarcasm then school me on something. I don't presume to be all knowing.

    Man, you guys are an abrasive tag team. I come here to talk, learn, and to help...not to be poked or to fight. Can we all just get along?:mrgreen:


    Direct me to some of your posts, links on amps, or any useful discussions!
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  • eclypse
    eclypse Posts: 595
    edited May 2013
    I'll be sure to fill everyone in on how the LSiMs sound with either Emo XPA-1s and XPA3 for center/surrounds or 2 XPA-1s for Fronts and XPA-5 for C/S and future speakers. If I cant afford all that I might just go with the XPR-5.
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)
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  • eclypse
    eclypse Posts: 595
    edited May 2013
    With that said its a good thing Emotiva has a 30 day no hassle/no questions asked return policy with 0 restock fees. Only loose shipping it back for trying them out.
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    edited May 2013
    I have personally never heard an Emo amp, but I read the review, and do agree with the author on one point. Those blue led lights should go. I've only seen pics of these amps, but anytime I see an led bar graph, I just shake my head. Go with vu meters, ot a single led light.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited May 2013
    I feel exactly the opposite way about the blue lights I like them more than a vu meter..
    To me a Macintosh amp looks painfully ugly like an arc welder..
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,421
    edited May 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    I feel exactly the opposite way about the blue lights I like them more than a vu meter..
    To me a Macintosh amp looks painfully ugly like an arc welder..

    And to most of us, Mcintosh builds some of the classiest gear around. To me Emo is painfully ugly, kind of like looking at Phyllis Diller naked.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2013
    Habanero Monk wrote: »
    All AH reviews are crap excepting the glowing one on the Polk LSiM. That one is spot on :cheesygrin:

    I see you picked up on that one too. After Audioholics gave a very positive review of Polk's new LSiM speakers the peanut gallery here was dead silent in their obvious belief that the staff at AH are not capable of writing a credible review. Not a peep mind you! Different day, different manufacture, different product & the floodgates opened. Oh so typical around here.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2013
    Keiko wrote: »
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    ....

    Out of all the bs that surrounds emo conversations this is my favorite post ever :razz: , I don't get hy everyone else is not laughing there **** of at this it's hilarious and border line genius :cheesygrin:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,567
    edited May 2013
    eclypse wrote: »
    With that said its a good thing Emotiva has a 30 day no hassle/no questions asked return policy with 0 restock fees. Only loose shipping it back for trying them out.

    You do realize that shipping will easily run $150.00 EACH. right?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,567
    edited May 2013
    Loud & Clear wrote: »
    Looks like they knocked it out of the park again. After listening to the UPA-200 ($349!, new), I have a lot of respect for the quality for dollar they are capable of. Just a tremendous success story for an American company to deliver these kinds of goods for those prices. Just crushing the overpriced competition. Love it.

    A closer look reveals it is less than crushing.
    I did a quick check to see how green friendly the XPR-1 amp was. I measured roughly 50 watts idle power consumption which is very low for an amplifier of this power capability. Even with almost 10 watts of pure class A bias, this amp is efficient!

    Almost 10 watts in class A is less then impressive.
    The Emotiva XPR-1 ripped through the 10Hz to 20kHz power sweep at 1 kilowatt like nobody’s business. I’ve never measured an amplifier that could produce 1 kilowatt full bandwidth before.

    Translated, he's never tested any amp that was rated at 1 kilowatt @ 8 ohms.
    The power levels achieved by the XPR-1 for these tests are legendary. Into 8 ohms, the XPR-1 produced over 1.7 dB of dynamic headroom for 8 ohm loads and 2.13 dB for 4 ohm loads. A large power supply, lots of output devices and most importantly a very robust design really pulls off wonders here.

    Respectable headroom, but hardly legendary.

    They are not rated to drive loads below 4 ohms, while the big amps from Musical Fidelity, McIntosh and Krell for example are rated down to at least 2 ohms and lower IIRC.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited May 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    I feel exactly the opposite way about the blue lights I like them more than a vu meter..
    To me a Macintosh amp looks painfully ugly like an arc welder..

    Really? While I am not against blaring blue lights in particular. The big glowing (softly) VU meters on the Onkyo Integra power amps and others are just drop dead sexy!
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited May 2013
    To each their own, I grew up in the 80's therefore Led lights are more my style, I'm guessing you did not..
    I guess you speak for everyone on looks, yet I bet most have amps without meters...:smile:
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    And to most of us, Mcintosh builds some of the classiest gear around. To me Emo is painfully ugly, kind of like looking at Phyllis Diller naked.
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited May 2013
    So cool that Emotiva bought Bob Carver's company. Now Carver will have the vast resources that a powerful company like Emotiva provides him. Carver just jumped into the big leagues, boys. Hopefully Carver fans will get the same types of products they've always drooled over for far more reasonable prices.

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,253
    edited May 2013
    I personally like the looks of Emotiva Gear. Ugly it is not IMO!! I also love the look of Mcintosh gear, the VU meters on most classic gear is sexy..

    John, quit the hate game already. The exterior build quality on their gear is top notch, very solid, jolida and dared's exterior build quality can't touch Emotiva's, they cheap out in that department, but for the record I'm only speaking on the gear I have seen with my own eyes..
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,567
    edited May 2013
    Loud & Clear wrote: »
    So cool that Emotiva bought Bob Carver's company. Now Carver will have the vast resources that a powerful company like Emotiva provides him. Carver just jumped into the big leagues, boys. Hopefully Carver fans will get the same types of products they've always drooled over for far more reasonable prices.

    You seem very confused on what is what. Carver, with his tube amps, was already in the big leagues. It's Emotiva that hasn't gotten there. In addition, if you think those Carver tube amps are somehow magically going to be priced as Emotiva's gear is now, I've got a bridge to sell you.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,253
    edited May 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    You seem very confused on what is what. Carver, with his tube amps, was already in the big leagues. It's Emotiva that hasn't gotten there. In addition, if you think those Carver tube amps are somehow magically going to be priced as Emotiva's gear is now, I've got a bridge to sell you.

    I agree, if anything his name will increase the price of their gear, but hope that's due to him taking Emotiva to a higher level as well, not just a name selling a brand..
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited May 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    You do realize that shipping will easily run $150.00 EACH. right?

    And how much is it if you can't demo Bryston, Pass, Boulder, Krell, McIntosh, Conrad Johnson, locally?
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2013
    Personally, I despise the way both McIntosh and Emotiva look. Haven't heard either so no comment there.
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    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

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    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited May 2013
    As I have already posted once in another thread, Big Dan himself The owner of Emotiva already answered my post about prices going up with the addition of Carver and he said, no they will not be going up...
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    As I have already posted once, Big Dan himself The owner of Emotiva already answered my post about prices going up with the addition of Carver and he said, no they will not be going up...

    What prices? lmao
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited May 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    As I have already posted once in another thread, Big Dan himself The owner of Emotiva already answered my post about prices going up with the addition of Carver and he said, no they will not be going up...

    Exactly. This guy's goal, obviously, is to bring good audio to the masses. We're going to get the same Carver quality without the massive markup for the Carver name. Looking forward to it. In fact I look forward to them buying many more of these types of companies and making audio dreams come true for so many more people. It's about freaking time someone pulled down the curtain and revealed the wizard of oz for who he really is. Big Dan is the man!

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited May 2013
    Meaning they will stay consistent with Emotiva gear..smarty pants
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • eclypse
    eclypse Posts: 595
    edited May 2013
    Habanero Monk wrote: »
    And how much is it if you can't demo Bryston, Pass, Boulder, Krell, McIntosh, Conrad Johnson, locally?

    Prob a hell of a lot more since i'd have to rent a truck and lug all my speakers.. oh wait the only way to really know is to bring the amp home for a listen in my own room since that will be the only way to know. If ya know of a audio shop in MI that would let me barrow a high end amp let me know!
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)
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