Local Custom Speakers
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No they are operating bipolar(push-push) so with the woofers in phase the outputs will combine,out of phase there would be complete cancellation in the bass range.But it will also reduce output, correct?
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nooshinjohn wrote: »They look nice suspended from the carpeted ceiling. how hard was it to hang all your gar like that?:cheesygrin:
I don't know what's the deal with me posting upside down pictures today!
But thanks.
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Did you use an ipad to take the picture?"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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iPhone which is my normal MO, but I must have screwed something up. Oh well, it's nice to know I'm not perfect...
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With the H/K amplifing, the speakers are detailed, but a little laid back and very forgiving. That aluminum tweeter is pretty amazing, and the aluminum woofers sound surprizingly soft.
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Driver material is much less important that what most make it out to be. The only time it makes a big difference is when the drivers are of cheap or mediocre quality, or the crossover design is poor."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Wow, those are really nice looking speakers! Congrats!--Gary--
Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out. -
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My wife says they are the ugliest speakers I've ever brought home, but also comments that at least they aren't tall...
I'm very interested to get an actual power amp on them, and a dedicated 2-channel preamp as I know they have a lot more potential then they are letting on with the receiver. I'm hoping to have an amp nailed down by the end of the week, but that's assuming I find something I really want, and sell a few things in the mean time. -
This is my first pair of time-aligned cabinets, but it does lend to the sound more than I was expecting. The sound is very balanced and better blended than other cone speakers I've owned; which may be the drivers as well. I've owned cone speakers that did specific things better (bass), but none that sounded this natural.
I agree, but the finish is very durable, which I don't mind, and isn't worth changing right now. The hard wood accents are a nice touch though. -
Glad to hear, enjoy!"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Nice lookin speaks!You seem to go through gear like an NBA player through groupies.
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Ya, it's all part of the fun sometimes. It was a neat pair of speakers that were hard to pass up, and a very different sound then I am used to.
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I hear ya.It definately part of the fun trying different gear and mod's etc.
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I'm going to try to pair these with a subwoofer and see what they sound like. They aren't as full below 40Hz as I'm used to, but a big subwoofer might be too over powering, and not blend with the naturalnes. I'll plug something in this week as see what it does...
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I find it easier to blend a sub with a sealed speaker than a ported one. You have an SPL meter, right? Make sure the sub isn't sitting in a null spot in the room then get to work on phase, level, and crossover point."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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I completely agree; I much prefer sealed speakers likes these ones as the bass is quicker, tighter, and blends easier. Horn loaded is nice too...
A fair amount of adjusting, tuning, and moving will probably have to happen (SPL meter included), but I'll see if I can successfully blend a 10" woofer into the mix. -
I pulled out this little Boston Acoustics ASW250 to see how it might sound. It's nothing too special, but a cut about any of the discount brands; weighs in at 35lbs so decently built. It's downfiring which is why I haven't been using it, but uses a 10" ceramic/glass fiber woofer for a realistic bottom end of 30Hz. Sound quality is fairly good on it, but it looks even better with piano gloss sides and a leather type finish on the rest.
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I like the slope of the cabinets. That's one of the main thing's I love about my Usher's. I think if it had a piano gloss finish to it, it'd take their appearance up a notch or two.
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Habanero Monk wrote: »The slope serves a time alignment function of the drivers.
LOL Captain Obvious much?
Pretty sure dskip is aware of this as he has talked about time aligned speakers elsewhere and zingo mentioned it in the following post as well.
Zingo,
That's a nice well rounded sub there. pretty evenly split between HT and musicality. Personal preference would be a higher end 8 inch sub though. I love what my Micropro brings to the table in terns of speed and accuracy. Maybe doesn't go as low as a bigger sub but then I am trying to reproduce music not a shuttle launch. Hehe."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
LOL Captain Obvious much?
Pretty sure dskip is aware of this as he has talked about time aligned speakers elsewhere and zingo mentioned it in the following post as well.
Zingo,
That's a nice well rounded sub there. pretty evenly split between HT and musicality. Personal preference would be a higher end 8 inch sub though. I love what my Micropro brings to the table in terns of speed and accuracy. Maybe doesn't go as low as a bigger sub but then I am trying to reproduce music not a shuttle launch. Hehe.
Just putting the reason out there. Not everyone knows why they might be sloped. Just filling in some context for those that may be un-awares. Is that ok? -
Habanero Monk wrote: »Just putting the reason out there. Not everyone knows why they might be sloped. Just filling in some context for those that may be un-awares. Is that ok?
I did touch on the time align concept in the following post, but politely restating or explaining something usually shouldn't ruffle and feathers. I believe ZLTFUL was a little touched off by your comment because it didn't have any context, and the thread did evolve a little into speaker design tech-talk.This is my first pair of time-aligned cabinets, but it does lend to the sound more than I was expecting. The sound is very balanced and better blended than other cone speakers I've owned; which may be the drivers as well. I've owned cone speakers that did specific things better (bass), but none that sounded this natural. -
I did touch on the time align concept in the following post, but politely restating or explaining something usually shouldn't ruffle and feathers. I believe ZLTFUL was a little touched off by your comment because it didn't have any context, and the thread did evolve a little into speaker design tech-talk.
Thx. I didn't know it was going to ruffle feathers. A diy speaker may be me next step beyond the LSi's that I have. That or a killer price on a higher end (used potentially) commercial design. -
That wasn't the point of his post. He has an agenda. Let him do what he wants, he will get no food from me.
Care to elaborate? Feel free to report or point out any posts that run afoul of the rules here I guess... Is there an emoticon for shrugs? -
Zingo,
That's a nice well rounded sub there. pretty evenly split between HT and musicality. Personal preference would be a higher end 8 inch sub though. I love what my Micropro brings to the table in terns of speed and accuracy. Maybe doesn't go as low as a bigger sub but then I am trying to reproduce music not a shuttle launch. Hehe.
I agree that a well designed 8" sub like the Micropro can sound very good, but the Boston was a little cheaper. Usually a well designed 10" sub can also be fast, plus go low enough for me. And like you, I don't need crazy output, just controlled and musical frequency response down to at least 30Hz for organ music, stand-up bass, etc. -
I agree that a well designed 8" sub like the Micropro can sound very good, but the Boston was a little cheaper. Usually a well designed 10" sub can also be fast, plus go low enough for me. And like you, I don't need crazy output, just controlled and musical frequency response down to at least 30Hz for organ music, stand-up bass, etc.
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A DIY subwoofer may be a solid option, but if this one can blend in to my speakers without standing out, I'll be happy.
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If it stands out, it's not set up right.
A SPL meter and test tones is one way to get it done, but kind of archaic compared to this: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=390-792
What's wrong with downfiring subs? Crossed low enough, it shouldn't matter if it's up, down, left, or right firing.I pulled out this little Boston Acoustics ASW250 to see how it might sound. It's nothing too special, but a cut about any of the discount brands; weighs in at 35lbs so decently built. It's downfiring which is why I haven't been using it, but uses a 10" ceramic/glass fiber woofer for a realistic bottom end of 30Hz. Sound quality is fairly good on it, but it looks even better with piano gloss sides and a leather type finish on the rest. Adding a little polyfill inside the sub may help with boominess due to a poor design, poor setup, etc... "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
It will be crossed very low, 50Hz-60Hz maybe, so nothing wrong with that set-up. Even though bass frequencies can't give our ears directional ques, I still don't prefer the idea of a speaker cone firing straight into the carpet; but I'm weird...
