Feedback on my system
factorz
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Looking for a little direction from of knowledgeable folks here. My current system is the following and I know I can always move up, but it's what my budget allowed.
SDA-1C Modded
Denon DRA-397
Emotiva XPA-2
Squeezebox Touch
Sony TT
I wouldn't say I am unhappy with the sound, but I feel some tweaking could make things better. Currently the speakers are 12" from the back wall and 9" from the side walls. The TV and stand can't be move because of the cable feed. My first thought was to move the equipment rack out of the area and maybe see if I could add some room treatments. So feel free to let me know what I am doing wrong with my placement.
SDA-1C Modded
Denon DRA-397
Emotiva XPA-2
Squeezebox Touch
Sony TT
I wouldn't say I am unhappy with the sound, but I feel some tweaking could make things better. Currently the speakers are 12" from the back wall and 9" from the side walls. The TV and stand can't be move because of the cable feed. My first thought was to move the equipment rack out of the area and maybe see if I could add some room treatments. So feel free to let me know what I am doing wrong with my placement.
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Any chance of putting the TV on the wall, then put all the gear on the TV stand? That would allow you to move the SDA's away from the side walls, which will improve their performance.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Not at this time. It's a older DLP so you can't mount it. So you feel there to close to side wall?
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Take the vertical rack out and put the gear under the TV then move the sda's away from the side walls. Aren't you near me?
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Your 1Cs should be 5'-6' apart and 3' from side walls. Wall treatments will help also.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
what are the dims. of your room? any chance of moving the system to the long wall?Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
Puritan PSM156 -
The Touch would be greatly improved by a nice out-board DAC and probably even a PS upgrade.2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
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Not at this time. It's a older DLP so you can't mount it. So you feel there to close to side wall?
Much, much too close. As thsmith stated, they should be AT LEAST 3' from the side walls. As Marv suggested, can you move them to the longer wall (if it is a longer wall)?
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."![:\](https://forum.polkaudio.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
The space they are in is what I have to work with for now. Hopefully our next house will allow me to put them along a longer wall to give them more room to breath. Going to see what I can do about getting the rack out of there and moving them away from the side walls. I might be able to get a few room treatments. Should they go along the wall or behind the speakers?
Leroy I am near you. Opposite side of the city. -
+1 on the addition of a DAC, the right one makes a huge improvement!!! Also ( i assume the denon is used as pre) up grade to better pre and a big improvment can be had as well. But still a nice system.Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable -
Yeah, those SDA's are not set-up properly at all. I'm sure they sound decent but you don't have any idea what you are missing by having them crammed in each corner of the room. Eh, the amp could be better but it's probably better than just using a receiver by itself. A real pre-amp would serve you better than an avr and a linear power supply for the Touch helps.
How far off is the new house? People say that all the time, "when I get a new house" and they end up staying in the current house for 10 more years
Enjoy and don't take the criticism personally. You asked and I am being honest from my perspective. If you only did one thing, get the SDA's properly set-up if at all possible
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Looking for a little direction from of knowledgeable folks here. My current system is the following and I know I can always move up, but it's what my budget allowed.
SDA-1C Modded
Denon DRA-397
Emotiva XPA-2
Squeezebox Touch
Sony TT
I wouldn't say I am unhappy with the sound, but I feel some tweaking could make things better. Currently the speakers are 12" from the back wall and 9" from the side walls. The TV and stand can't be move because of the cable feed. My first thought was to move the equipment rack out of the area and maybe see if I could add some room treatments. So feel free to let me know what I am doing wrong with my placement.
Why not extend the cable feed so that you can try moving stuff to the long wall? You could either get the cable company out to do it which is probably not going to cost anything, or buy a coupler and some extra cable and do it yourself.
Once the speakers are set up properly you can reevaluate. The improvement may be to the point that you're satisfied enough with the sound to put off further upgrades . . . or not!
"Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer -
Yeah, those SDA's are not set-up properly at all. I'm sure they sound decent but you don't have any idea what you are missing by having them crammed in each corner of the room. Eh, the amp could be better but it's probably better than just using a receiver by itself. A real pre-amp would serve you better than an avr and a linear power supply for the Touch helps.
How far off is the new house? People say that all the time, "when I get a new house" and they end up staying in the current house for 10 more years
Enjoy and don't take the criticism personally. You asked and I am being honest from my perspective. If you only did one thing, get the SDA's properly set-up if at all possible
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No worries. I have asked for honest feedback and I appreciate what I have gotten. No arguments from me that the equipment could all be improved, but at this time the funds won't allow it so I figure a little tweaking might help. -
Thanks again to everyone for making some good suggestions. I ended up spending the day moving the entire room around and was able to fit them on the side wall giving them a ton of room on both sides and 7 feet between them. Sound is much improved and now the savings begin for a new pre-amp and DAC.
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that will be a 12 pack for my services:cheesygrin:Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
Puritan PSM156
