Emotiva buys Bob Carver LLC

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,254
    edited April 2013
    Face wrote: »
    Hey, if you combine Emo's bright sound and poor soundstage with Carver's lack of detail and huge soundstage, they'll both have a decent product. :cheesygrin:


    Hehe...
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited April 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Emotiva needs a higher end product line. They have the entry level covered, and need to offer a line of gear for those who want to step up. If they can start making better gear with better quality then consumers win, although it might hurt some other brands.
    I know I'm inviting ugliness by posing this question... but what if they keep making the same PRICE level amps but Carver's involvement improves their sound? In other words, is "entry level" based on the sound or the price? And don't they already have a line of gear for those who want to "step up" in the XPR line? Or has that already been panned and dismissed?
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited April 2013
    Face wrote: »
    Hey, if you combine Emo's bright sound and poor soundstage with Carver's lack of detail and huge soundstage, they'll both have a decent product. :cheesygrin:
    But one should base their amp purchase decision only after careful comparision of spec sheets no?Not by actual listening.
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  • Tornado Red
    Tornado Red Posts: 939
    edited April 2013
    This explains the strange package I got in the mail today, post marked Franklin, TN. It's a C A R V E R badge that seems to fit right over the E M O T I V A nameplate on my XPA-3...
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,421
    edited April 2013
    ^^^Pics please...

    The smart thing for the would be to build the Carver brand and let technology trickle down to the rest of their product lines. The Sunfire Signature line worked out very well, so I would hope there would be a Sig line from the new Carver brand as well. I don't nessesarily agree that the Carver name is harmed by this move. That will depend greatly on what Emotiva and Bob do with it.

    If you love Bobs work as I do, his previous work will continue to endure. Those that never liked his gear will now have another reason to continue to do so. The real question is what happens to those that love Emo and hate Carver? There must not be many out there as the thread on the Emo forum is welcoming him like he's the second coming of Jesus or something...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,421
    edited April 2013
    On another note, given the relationship between this forum an Emo, can you imagine the uproar that would be caused if Polk bought Emo? Lmao!
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2013
    kuntasensei wrote: »
    I know I'm inviting ugliness by posing this question... but what if they keep making the same PRICE level amps but Carver's involvement improves their sound?

    We will have to wait and see what they do with Carver. My guess is another line of gear at a higher price point. Maintaining the same price point after buying another company will take forever to recoup the purchase price. Assuming the price is in the millions. Paying money to do the same thing is generally not good business. Of course, if they do try to improve the sound then doesn't that imply something was lacking? Anyway, this is just speculation. We will have to wait and see.
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited April 2013
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    On another note, given the relationship between this forum an Emo, can you imagine the uproar that would be caused if Polk bought Emo? Lmao!
    Given most people's reaction to Emo, I'm pretty sure the world would explode if that happened! :lol:
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • Tornado Red
    Tornado Red Posts: 939
    edited April 2013
    Carver.jpg
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2013
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    On another note, given the relationship between this forum an Emo, can you imagine the uproar that would be caused if Polk bought Emo? Lmao!

    Both products are in line with each other.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,421
    edited April 2013
    At least it looks better... Any difference in sound?:lol:
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2013
    Nope.:cheesygrin:

    You need to change your signature to Emotiva statement tube monoblocks.lol
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  • Tornado Red
    Tornado Red Posts: 939
    edited April 2013
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    At least it looks better... Any difference in sound?:lol:

    Naw. Still sounds like the $599 amp I bought last month. Seriously, I like what BlueFox said, this could be good for consumers. Emo gets the benefits of a really smart guy over there, Carver maybe gets a little more cash flow and his line gets even better with more R&D at his disposal. Could be a big winner for all. Except perhaps employees, they always seem to be the losers in something like this. Company A with 10,000 employees buys company B with 3,000. We usually don't end up with company A having 13,000 workers. And the China/America thing with these 2 companies, wonder what will happen there. On a side note, there may be some very nervous competitors right now with this collaboration.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,034
    edited April 2013
    ...if he sticks with tube amps....

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,254
    edited April 2013
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Both products are in line with each other.

    I was thinking the same thing.
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Nope.:cheesygrin:

    You need to change your signature to Emotiva statement tube monoblocks.lol


    Hahaha!!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,254
    edited April 2013
    Tornado Red wrote: »
    Carver.jpg


    Someone needs to photo shop the E in Emotiva and put it in CarvEer..
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2013
    You mean Cartima, Carvemo, or Emover?
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited April 2013
    Sounds like a band playing down at the Holiday Inn... Bob Carver and the Flaming Emos
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited April 2013
    Polkersince85 wrote: »
    Sounds like a band playing down at the Holiday Inn... Bob Carver and the Flaming Emos

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,254
    edited April 2013
    Polkersince85 wrote: »
    Sounds like a band playing down at the Holiday Inn... Bob Carver and the Flaming Emos


    Hahahaha!!
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited April 2013
    bobsauto49 wrote: »
    Just curious,does this mean you didn't give them an honest listen the 1st time?:redface:

    LOL. Good one.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited April 2013
    Why does everyone hate on emo gear? I like my emo gear
    mole'
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited April 2013
    ROFL, I'm Loving This..
    It's a WIN WIN for Emotiva anyway you look at it..
    Although I do Fear this Move will undoubtedly come with a HIGHER price tag..
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2013
    Carver? Who is Bob Carver???
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited April 2013
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Carver? Who is Bob Carver???
    Who are any of us, really? It's kind of an existential question. If my XPA-3 falls in the woods and Bob Carver's not around, does this forum still hear it suck?
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited April 2013
    Or the other way around..lmao
    Guess you guys would have to find a new forum, rofl
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    On another note, given the relationship between this forum an Emo, can you imagine the uproar that would be caused if Polk bought Emo? Lmao!
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
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