I need a new receiver, any help would be appreciated!!!

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited April 2013
    D_M wrote: »
    Mak060503,

    How important is 3D? There are a lot of pre 3D receivers to choose from.

    Agreed. However another important question is what flavor of Auto Calibration do you want Audyssey (Denon, Onkyo, Marantz), MCACC (Pioneer), YPAO (Yamaha).

    I am willing to be he's somewhat familiar with Audyssey since he has a Onkyo now which would me he would want to stay in the Denon, Onkyo, Marantz field and of them IMHO the Denon's amp section is the worst IMHO, Onkyo the second worst, Marantz the best. Cost wise Marantz is the highest, Denon and Onkyo are close but the nod goes to Onkyo here.....

    Pioneers deserve a nod here but only if using the ones with ICE amps, but thats a personal decision :biggrin:
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited April 2013
    Regarding the 717. I went from the 705 w/ multi eq to the 717 with only 2eq. Despite the lesser version of audy. The 717 is much improved in sound quality over the 705 and operates 1000 times cooler. It has a built in fan over the Hdmi board that the 705 did not. I opted for the 717 over 709 only because of hdmi board failures I kept reading about.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited April 2013
    jeremymarcinko wrote: »
    Regarding the 717. I went from the 705 w/ multi eq to the 717 with only 2eq. Despite the lesser version of audy.

    As I havent heard either unit I cannot comment beyond saying that the 2EQ in my Integra is IMHO FAR behind the MutliEQ XT especially as 2EQ doesnt apply any correct to the sub channel at all so you have to manually dial that in, and in addition it doesnt have nearly as many filters for the speakers as well. I dont see how that wouldnt affect the sound negatively.
    jeremymarcinko wrote: »
    The 717 is much improved in sound quality over the 705 and operates 1000 times cooler. It has a built in fan over the Hdmi board that the 705 did not. I opted for the 717 over 709 only because of hdmi board failures I kept reading about.

    Heat is an issue with many of the Onkyo's, however there is a super cheap solution lots of folks use where they take a 120mm computer fan and just put it on top the AVR to keep air moving within it, which is basically exactly what the 717 does just internal. The parts for the fan and power needed to run it is probably less than 20 bucks give or take so not as big a deal IMHO.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • David R
    David R Posts: 134
    edited April 2013
    cowtrimmer wrote: »
    There are good deals to be had if you arent in a big hurry. Scour the usual sites for the brand\model your looking for and usually withing 30-45 days something will pop up. I bought a new Onkyo tx-nr809 off Amazon for $430 a couple months ago, so patience is key when deal hunting.

    I have the onk 809. If you can get one for close to $430 that would be an amazing price. I paid at least $600 for one at FRY's.
    Panasonic 65" Plasma - Panasonic Blu-ray. Onkyo TX-NR809 RTi A7s fronts - MK CS150s surronds.
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  • jumpindick
    jumpindick Posts: 428
    edited April 2013
    +1 to all the feedback with preouts. This way, you can keep options open for future if you do decide to upgrade the speakers and need a dedicated amp. Why not spend some more and look at Marantz. They are good receiver and they have preouts. I have SR 6006 and it was pretty darn good. I liked it for its warmth. Recently I hooked up pio SC-65 and I think it is even better.
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  • snake1
    snake1 Posts: 567
    edited April 2013
    I also have an 809 and have nothing but good to say about it. I found mine on ebay for $550 I believe. Don't be in a hurry and just shop around. Find a good auction thats not seeing much action and you may be able to negotiate a deal with a seller. Has worked for me several times.
    AVR - Onkyo NR809
    500gb HD for MP3 and FLAC files
    Amp - Parasound 2250 - FOR SALE BTW!! PM me if interested!
    Mains - Polk RTi12 towers
    Center - CSi5
    Surround - FXiA6's
    Sub - psw505
    Movies and games - PS3
    TV - Toshiba 52" HD

    Every vehicle has one good nuetral drop in it
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  • David R
    David R Posts: 134
    edited April 2013
    Snake - what do you think of the RTi - 12's? I had a set of RTi 8's for a couple of weeks but my wife didn't like the looks and made me get rid of them. I liked the sound though. I sold them to my brother for what I paid. My brother cranked them up with the CSI 4 center and my ears hurt for 2 days. The RTiA7's aren't bad.
    Panasonic 65" Plasma - Panasonic Blu-ray. Onkyo TX-NR809 RTi A7s fronts - MK CS150s surronds.
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited April 2013
    killer deal!

    http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR3007/Onkyo-TX-NR3007-THX-Ultra2-Plus-140w-x-9.2-Network-Receiver/1.html
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • snake1
    snake1 Posts: 567
    edited April 2013
    David R wrote: »
    Snake - what do you think of the RTi - 12's? I had a set of RTi 8's for a couple of weeks but my wife didn't like the looks and made me get rid of them. I liked the sound though. I sold them to my brother for what I paid. My brother cranked them up with the CSI 4 center and my ears hurt for 2 days. The RTiA7's aren't bad.

    I have been extremely pleased with the 12s! Although I don't have a lot to compare to, they do sound good no matter what I'm listening too ie. music or movies or games. Highs are crisp, mids are full, and the bass (with proper amplifcation) is stellar! I don't have a sub in my system yet and the 12s def hold their own in the bass dept. However, they are the biggest speaker in the RTi line so I really don't think your wife is going to like them any better. These speakers can be gotten for a great deal however!! Let me know if you need more info on them!
    AVR - Onkyo NR809
    500gb HD for MP3 and FLAC files
    Amp - Parasound 2250 - FOR SALE BTW!! PM me if interested!
    Mains - Polk RTi12 towers
    Center - CSi5
    Surround - FXiA6's
    Sub - psw505
    Movies and games - PS3
    TV - Toshiba 52" HD

    Every vehicle has one good nuetral drop in it
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  • xdfireguy
    xdfireguy Posts: 41
    edited April 2013
    It's threads like these that keep making me change my mind as to which avr I'm going to pick up. By the time I decide, technology will have passed me by once again.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited April 2013
    The new Marantz NR1504/1604 look good on paper.I'm seriously considering the 1504 in the near future.
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited April 2013
    Ok so I just ordered a Onkyo 809 for $345. Thanks for all your help everybody!!!
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  • snake1
    snake1 Posts: 567
    edited April 2013
    Mak06053 wrote: »
    Ok so I just ordered a Onkyo 809 for $345. Thanks for all your help everybody!!!

    Who did u rob??? Dang good price!
    AVR - Onkyo NR809
    500gb HD for MP3 and FLAC files
    Amp - Parasound 2250 - FOR SALE BTW!! PM me if interested!
    Mains - Polk RTi12 towers
    Center - CSi5
    Surround - FXiA6's
    Sub - psw505
    Movies and games - PS3
    TV - Toshiba 52" HD

    Every vehicle has one good nuetral drop in it
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited April 2013
    Cant beat that!
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • xdfireguy
    xdfireguy Posts: 41
    edited April 2013
    It is a great price... that one was one of my alternates. I'm sure you will be happy with it. Seems that there are a lot of very positive comments from the 809 group. If you want a copy of the email regarding the warranty that I got from Onkyo, just PM me and I will forward it to you.
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  • zane77
    zane77 Posts: 1,696
    edited April 2013
    Enders had the right idea about using a fan above the HDMI board, I use a thermaltake USB powered fan that I picked up on Amazon
    Home Theater
    Onkyo PR-SC5508 Sharp LC-70LE847U
    Emotiva XPA-5 Emotiva XPA-2 Emotiva UPA-2
    Front RTi-A9 Wide RTi-A7 Center CSi-A6 Surround FXi-A6 Rear RTi-A3 Sub 2x PSW505
    Sony BDP-S790 Dishnetwork Hopper/Joey Logitech Harmony One Apple TV
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  • xdfireguy
    xdfireguy Posts: 41
    edited April 2013
    Ha! I just looked it up and realized I bought a couple back in February of last year for a project that failed miserably. I might have to salvage one :smile: Mak06053, it's a good fan, and I would recommend it. You can run it off the rear USB if you are not using it for other things.
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited April 2013
    Thanks guys. I will be looking at purchasing one of the USB powered fans
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  • zane77
    zane77 Posts: 1,696
    edited April 2013
    That USB powered Thermaltake fan is small and very quiet and has a small speed control pot on it. I stripped off the fan guards and just double back taped it right above the HDMI board.
    Home Theater
    Onkyo PR-SC5508 Sharp LC-70LE847U
    Emotiva XPA-5 Emotiva XPA-2 Emotiva UPA-2
    Front RTi-A9 Wide RTi-A7 Center CSi-A6 Surround FXi-A6 Rear RTi-A3 Sub 2x PSW505
    Sony BDP-S790 Dishnetwork Hopper/Joey Logitech Harmony One Apple TV
    Two Channel
    Oppo 105D BAT VK-500 w/BatPack SDA SRS 2.3 Dreadnought Squeezebox Touch Apple TV
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  • snake1
    snake1 Posts: 567
    edited April 2013
    Do the newer Onkyos like the 709,809, and the rest of the series need fans for the HDMI?
    AVR - Onkyo NR809
    500gb HD for MP3 and FLAC files
    Amp - Parasound 2250 - FOR SALE BTW!! PM me if interested!
    Mains - Polk RTi12 towers
    Center - CSi5
    Surround - FXiA6's
    Sub - psw505
    Movies and games - PS3
    TV - Toshiba 52" HD

    Every vehicle has one good nuetral drop in it
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited April 2013
    snake1 wrote: »
    Do the newer Onkyos like the 709,809, and the rest of the series need fans for the HDMI?

    I would suggest it just for peace of mind if you can do it. The HDMI boards heat up on all these units to some extent (which is why the 717 ,818 , etc come with fans built in now). Its 20 bucks or less to help make a 400+ AVR last longer.... not even worth stressing about before pulling the trigger on that kinda cost...
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,409
    edited April 2013
    zane77 wrote: »
    Enders had the right idea about using a fan above the HDMI board, I use a thermaltake USB powered fan that I picked up on Amazon

    Right, I also use a dual 50mm fan on top of my 807 that blows laterally, multi speed, looks like this; http://www.buyextras.com/evavcoblfanf.html

    I have a second one I use on top of my X-Box 360, that thing gets unbelievably hot.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

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  • xdfireguy
    xdfireguy Posts: 41
    edited April 2013
    I'll dig around and see if I can find that fan. IfIi have it, the guards are already stripped. I'll pm you for instant Karma :)
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  • cowtrimmer
    cowtrimmer Posts: 201
    edited April 2013
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    I would suggest it just for peace of mind if you can do it. The HDMI boards heat up on all these units to some extent (which is why the 717 ,818 , etc come with fans built in now). Its 20 bucks or less to help make a 400+ AVR last longer.... not even worth stressing about before pulling the trigger on that kinda cost...

    My 809 has two fans in it already, i'm not sure what a third placed in the mix would really do ?
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited April 2013
    The two fans in the 809 are under the amplifier heat sinks. They're not cooling the HDMI board effectively.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited April 2013
    So where would u place the fan to cool the HDMI board and would you blow air at it or away from it?
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited April 2013
    The Hdmi board is right on top at the rear. You can place your fan right above to pull air/heat away.
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    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • chris23120
    chris23120 Posts: 95
    edited April 2013
    that is a great deal! I have bought my last 2 Onkyo's refurbished from them with no issues...

    PolkieMan wrote: »
    killer deal!

    http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR3007/Onkyo-TX-NR3007-THX-Ultra2-Plus-140w-x-9.2-Network-Receiver/1.html
    Samsung UN55C6500 55" LED
    Onkyo TX-NR3007
    Polk Audio RT5000
    -RT3000 front
    -CS1000 center
    -FX1000 dipole
    Polk Audio PSW1000 5.1 sub
    Polk Audio microPRO 4000 x2 5.2 subs:biggrin:
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