I need a new receiver, any help would be appreciated!!!

Mak06053
Mak06053 Posts: 44
edited April 2013 in Electronics
I currently have an older Onkoyo HTIB receiver. I have recently upgraded all the speakers to Polks...Monitor 75 towers for fronts, tsi300 towers for surround (origially was for fronts but got good deal on the 75's), cs20 center and a 505 sub. I have a limited budget and don't want to spend a ton more $$$??

Any help would be awesome. Thank you

Mike
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  • adb3da
    adb3da Posts: 507
    edited March 2013
    If you're comfortable with buying something used, I would recommend that route. What is your budget and do you think you'd ever add an external amp down the road?
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  • SugarmillMan
    SugarmillMan Posts: 175
    edited March 2013
    Mak06053 wrote: »
    I currently have an older Onkoyo HTIB receiver. I have recently upgraded all the speakers to Polks...Monitor 75 towers for fronts, tsi300 towers for surround (origially was for fronts but got good deal on the 75's), cs20 center and a 505 sub. I have a limited budget and don't want to spend a ton more $$$??

    Any help would be awesome. Thank you

    Mike

    Hi Mike. I'm sure most of the folks here will recommend getting a receiver that has preout connections. This is very good advice.
    Pre-outs will allow you to add an amplifier in the future to get more from your speakers and will tend to "future-proof" your purchase to some extent.

    One choice, would be an Onkyo TX-NR 709 receiver. Any Onkyo receiver in the 700 series or higher will have preout connections. Without knowing your budget, it's a little hard to give suggestions but the Onkyo can be purchased new from several places for about $499.00 (Amazon is one source), maybe cheaper elsewhere.
    However, there are many good brand choices in this price range. Maybe you can tell us more about what you have in mind?
    Fronts:B&W 804 Diamonds, Center: B&W HTM2 Diamond, Surrounds: PolkAudio LSi F/X (4)
    Subwoofer: HSU VTK3-MK3
    Electronics: Onkyo TX-NR 3010 receiver, Parasound Halo A31 amp, NAD T975 amp
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  • snake1
    snake1 Posts: 567
    edited March 2013
    I'd agree completely with Sugarmill above and also add that you may want to look at AVR's with Audyssey XT32 autocalibration as well! Another 'future proof' suggestion because it can calibrate better and also has the ability to calibrate multiple (future ;-)) subs. Just in case!
    AVR - Onkyo NR809
    500gb HD for MP3 and FLAC files
    Amp - Parasound 2250 - FOR SALE BTW!! PM me if interested!
    Mains - Polk RTi12 towers
    Center - CSi5
    Surround - FXiA6's
    Sub - psw505
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    TV - Toshiba 52" HD

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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited March 2013
    adb3da....I would certainly consider a used unit. As far as adding an amp...I can't so for sure it's out of the question but not looking to do that at this time.

    Sugamillman...I've been looking at the 616 and the 709 which would be tapping my budget as I've seen refurbed for $450. My buddy as a Harman Kardon HTIB with little JBL speakers and this thing sounds good. I like the look of the HK units but seem pricey.
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited March 2013
    As of now the new onkyos no longer have pre-outs on the 7 series. The 717's replacement the 727 doesn't have them. Pre-outs start on the 827.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited March 2013
    I would look at the 709 or the 809 if you can. The newer Onkyo's drop the Audyssey XT until you get to the higher end models, the rest just have 2EQ which is horrible.

    So honestly get the 709, you have pre-outs for future use, Audyssey XT and enough HDMI and other ports to be good for a long time.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited March 2013
    EndersShadow....thank you for your input it is MUCH appreciated as is everyone that has posted for me.
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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    edited March 2013
    i have a Yamaha RX V871 for sale. It has pre outs... check the yamaha page

    http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v871_black_u/
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  • Tornado Red
    Tornado Red Posts: 939
    edited March 2013
    +1 on those who recommend getting a receiver with pre outs Mike. I also have the Monitor 75t and they'll swallow up to 275 watts. I bought a nice receiver, but still ended up getting an amp to drive the front 3 so I could get the most out of them. So, even if you can't afford an amp right now, picking up a receiver with pre outs will have you in the cue for when you can.
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited March 2013
    Mikey....thanks for the offer....i am considering it

    Tornado....thank you also!
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  • cowtrimmer
    cowtrimmer Posts: 201
    edited March 2013
    There are good deals to be had if you arent in a big hurry. Scour the usual sites for the brand\model your looking for and usually withing 30-45 days something will pop up. I bought a new Onkyo tx-nr809 off Amazon for $430 a couple months ago, so patience is key when deal hunting.
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  • theshawn
    theshawn Posts: 70
    edited March 2013
    Used is a good way to go imo as you can get more for the money. Ebay can be a risk but you can get some pretty nice HTR's for cheap. Check your local Craigslist too.
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited March 2013
    I do check CL locally every few days for new listings, no luck yet. Thanks again for your input!
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  • xdfireguy
    xdfireguy Posts: 41
    edited March 2013
    Thanks all for posting these ideas I'm in the same boat and will be upgrading my receiver after I get the speaker situation satisfied.

    I have set up an alert through camelcamelcamel so I get notified if they drop the prices on the 809's again!!
    Quickly became Polkanized
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited March 2013
    Go for anthem mrx 300 with pre outs and one of the best room correction kits out there, it sounds fantastic :wink:
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    edited March 2013
    https://www.accessories4less.com
    Go for anthem mrx 300
    Junk!....oh wait :cheesygrin:
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • SugarmillMan
    SugarmillMan Posts: 175
    edited March 2013
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    Go for anthem mrx 300 with pre outs and one of the best room correction kits out there, it sounds fantastic :wink:

    As I said before, there any MANY good receivers in this price range. Everyone has their own favorites.
    With Anthem, I believe you must order from a dealer and cannot get one online. Some here have commented that you don't get any unwanted frills with Anthem, only a bare bones receiver with proprietary room correction software.
    Fronts:B&W 804 Diamonds, Center: B&W HTM2 Diamond, Surrounds: PolkAudio LSi F/X (4)
    Subwoofer: HSU VTK3-MK3
    Electronics: Onkyo TX-NR 3010 receiver, Parasound Halo A31 amp, NAD T975 amp
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited March 2013
    Lasareath wrote: »
    What About this?

    http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/975.html

    But you will need an Amp.

    My next Home Theater will use this Outlaw.
    That thing is pretty sweet .would go good with my adcom 7605
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2013
    Say K-daugh your location is a drop off/pick up CENTRAL HUB for some shipper? Either UPS or USPS! I've had a ton of stuff processed through there for their trip North.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited March 2013
    cnh wrote: »
    Say K-daugh your location is a drop off/pick up CENTRAL HUB for some shipper? Either UPS or USPS! I've had a ton of stuff processed through there for their trip North.

    cnh
    Its UPS so now I have just developed an inner struggle!!! Buy the Outlaw Audio 975 pair it up with the Adcom with a
    nice pair of Ic's or sell the HK 247 sell the adcom and get a pioneer elite sc 35...Damn I hate 1st world country problems!!
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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  • xftman
    xftman Posts: 153
    edited March 2013
    Harman Kardon 3600 Refurb from Ebay by Harman for $399. The lowest you can find with pre-out these day.
    MAIN:
    Front- LsiM 707 (MIT Terminator 2 Bi-Wire),
    Center- lsiM 706,
    Surrounds- lsi F/X,
    Power sub PSW1000,
    Receiver- Harman Kardon Avr 3700,
    Amp - Emo XPR-5.

    Secondary (2.1):
    LsiM 703,
    HK Avr 3700,
    Yaqin MS-30L,
    Polk DSW-PRO 400.
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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited March 2013
    Pre-outs is a must whether you do not think so yet. I was a little dissatified w/ my Yamaha RX-V665 because it clipped when pushed, I later found out that it was a combination of my pushing it and the fact it didn't have the proper room to get air flow going through it.W/ all that said for I think for $645 the new version w/ 105 wtts has all the inputs one could want could be a way to go. I did eventually add an external amp and it made all the difference. If your one not to blow up your sound w/ crazy levels then it should be fine and you still have the option later down the road.
    http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v675_u/?mode=model
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2013
    Here's a great place for factory refurbs (Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, Sherwood NewCastle). I've purchased numerous items from them & every transaction was flawless.
    http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/HomeAudio/Home-Audio/1.html
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited April 2013
    I just want to say thanks again to everyone that has replied to my post!
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited April 2013
    Any thoughts on Yamaha RX-V673? I don't know if it has preout....
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  • xdfireguy
    xdfireguy Posts: 41
    edited April 2013
    It appears that it does not. :sad:
    Quickly became Polkanized
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited April 2013
    Thanks xdfireguy...I didnt think so
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  • Mak06053
    Mak06053 Posts: 44
    edited April 2013
    Any thoughts on an Onkyo TX-NR717 for $499????
    NR709 for $449
    NR809 for $599
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited April 2013
    Mak06053 wrote: »
    Any thoughts on an Onkyo TX-NR717 for $499????
    NR709 for $449
    NR809 for $599

    The 709 or 809 are MUCH BETTER than the 717. More power, better EQ (Audyssexy XT v. 2EQ on the 717). They may lack one or two small features the 717 has, but I am totally passing on all the Onkyo models this year till you get to the 3xxx series and up.

    You lose Audyssey XT and dont even get MultiEQ but just 2EQ which is the cheapest version of Audyssey that my 5 year old Integra has. Anything you "gain" on the 717 isnt IMHO worth it.

    The 709 and 809 are VERY close for most HT use. Some differences are the 809 has more powered zones or zone outs than the 709, a bit more wattage (not enough to make a big difference) and a removeable powercord.

    I would prefer the 809 for the removeable powercord over the 709, but the 709 isnt by any means a bad option.

    So this is my ranking out of 10 on the models...

    809 - 10
    709 - 9.5
    717 - 2
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  • D_M
    D_M Posts: 175
    edited April 2013
    Mak060503,

    How important is 3D? There are a lot of pre 3D receivers to choose from.
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