Can i change out just 2 tweeters on 1C's??
naturallight
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Any "electrical" reason i can not just change 2 of the 4 tweeters out on the 1C's?
I can afford 2 of the RDO's this month..next month i can get away with the other 2.
I will also pick up some spikes from all parts. But the SL2000's, really have to go.
Any reason i should NOT change at least the 2 out?..or just wait till i get all 4??
I can afford 2 of the RDO's this month..next month i can get away with the other 2.
I will also pick up some spikes from all parts. But the SL2000's, really have to go.
Any reason i should NOT change at least the 2 out?..or just wait till i get all 4??
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If your speakers are working why not just wait? Patience is something you're gonna have to have if you stay with this hobby.If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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You can change just 2 at the time but I would tend to agree with decal. Just save the money and wait until next month and change them all at once.
If you decide to change 2 out at the time change the top ones. If I remember correctly these are the ones that play the full upper range. the lower ones are rolled of at the high end and don't see as much signal so would make slightly less difference than the top ones.If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!
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Yep. You're very likely to not like the sound if you change only 2 of the 4 tweeters and have 2 Sl-2000 and 2 RD0-194's in the 1C's.
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naturallight wrote: »Any "electrical" reason i can not just change 2 of the 4 tweeters out on the 1C's?
I can afford 2 of the RDO's this month..next month i can get away with the other 2.
I will also pick up some spikes from all parts. But the SL2000's, really have to go.
Any reason i should NOT change at least the 2 out?..or just wait till i get all 4??
Be Sweeter when you have all four.Home Theater/2 Channel:
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Buy the first pair, put 'em off to the side, and buy the 2nd pair as you can. Then install all four. You'll be so aggravated at having to look at the boxes of your first pair that getting pair #2 will be a high priority! :cool:Jay
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Another way to look at is, the sooner that break-in is begun on those two........the better.
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Actually, I think it'll be interesting test to see how two upper RDO's affect the sound with two lower tweeters still being SL2000's.
It's not breaking anything so I'd say go ahead and try two now and see how different they sound and add two more later and then compare the sound again.
It's double fun. :cool:
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Actually, I think it'll be interesting test to see how two upper RDO's affect the sound with two lower tweeters still being SL2000's.
It's not breaking anything so I'd say go ahead and try two now and see how different they sound and add two more later and then compare the sound again.
It's double fun. :cool:Home Theater/2 Channel:
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Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
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You can also do just one side/channel and do an A/B comparison. :idea:
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Actually, I think it'll be interesting test to see how two upper RDO's affect the sound with two lower tweeters still being SL2000's.
It's not breaking anything so I'd say go ahead and try two now and see how different they sound and add two more later and then compare the sound again.
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You could also sell the first two while waiting to save up for the 2nd pair. Be that much faster. For Sale section here, or eBay, should sell easilyHome Theater/2 Channel:
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Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
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There's certainly no "electrical" reason not to mix and match, but if this was only about electrical we would all experience nirvana with our transistor radios.
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Thanks guys, guess i'll just try and wait till i get all 4....LOL
Just for yucks i went on ebay to see what the price of the SL2000 go for. There seems to be only 1 in working condition. The clown wants 49 bucks (not that he will get it) Are these tweeters becomeing scarce or something, or is this guy just nuts?? I didn't think they were even worth selling, was just going to pack them up and put them in a closet. -
naturallight wrote: »Thanks guys, guess i'll just try and wait till i get all 4....LOL
Just for yucks i went on ebay to see what the price of the SL2000 go for. There seems to be only 1 in working condition. The clown wants 49 bucks (not that he will get it) Are these tweeters becomeing scarce or something, or is this guy just nuts?? I didn't think they were even worth selling, was just going to pack them up and put them in a closet.Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
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Sure why not since the lower ones are intentionally rolled off on the top end any way.
My 1Bs have the capacitor modification in the crossover, RD0-198 "main" tweeters, and SL2000 secondary tweeters.naturallight wrote: »i went on ebay to see what the price of the SL2000 go for. There seems to be only 1 in working condition. The clown wants 49 bucks (not that he will get it) Are these tweeters becomeing scarce or something, or is this guy just nuts?? I didn't think they were even worth selling, was just going to pack them up and put them in a closet. -
Schunkey..thats the way you like the 1B's? or your just waiting to get another set of 198's??
I know the 198's are "supposed" to be better then the 194's, but right now i'm not touching the Cross-over. It may be interesting to just change out the top 2000's in both speakers with the 194's. My guess is they can't sound worse...LOL since the bottom 2000's are rolled off anyway. I'm sure the 194's need at least 50 hours of break in time before they start sounding really good, but could be a cool test, just to see what that setup may sound like. -
My 1Bs have the capacitor modification in the crossover, RD0-198 "main" tweeters, and SL2000 secondary tweeters.naturallight wrote: »Schunkey..thats the way you like the 1B's? or your just waiting to get another set of 198's??
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OOOOKKK.....was kind of looking for a more sonic reason you liked that set up...but if it works for you due to the fact it's less bought stuff from Communist China..and it's passable....then i guess it works for you.
You DO know that most of what ever you buy to day, parts and pieces are made in China ..right??
This is NOT 1970..I can't get a Pontiac with a real Pontiac motor and all USA made parts.
Can't even get a Pontiac anymore...so not sure what your point is. You can't buy much of anything that dose not have parts made in China these days..... -
naturallight wrote: »OOOOKKK.....was kind of looking for a more sonic reason you liked that set up...but if it works for you due to the fact it's less bought stuff from Communist China..and it's passable....then i guess it works for you.
You DO know that most of what ever you buy to day, parts and pieces are made in China ..right??
This is NOT 1970..I can't get a Pontiac with a real Pontiac motor and all USA made parts.
Can't even get a Pontiac anymore...so not sure what your point is. You can't buy much of anything that dose not have parts made in China these days..... -
I refuse to buy more from Communist China than I have to. Inspiredsports reported acceptable results with a pair of 198s and a pair of SL2000 in his modified SDA-SRS 2 blade/blade speakers; and those are electrically identical to the active components in 1Bs except for one resistor per HF crossover.
It's been a long time and I don't have the energy to search, but I'm 99.9999% sure I never had the SL2000's in place. I'd purchased RDO-194's and then migrated 2 at a time to 198's. The RDO-194's were acceptable in the rolled-off spot.
I use SL2000's for target practice with my Glocks and Bushmaster unless passing them off to people I despise or friends ex-wives.
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inspiredsports wrote: »I'm 99.9999% sure I never had the SL2000's in place. I'd purchased RDO-194's and then migrated 2 at a time to 198's. The RDO-194's were acceptable in the rolled-off spot.
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you don't need to ask for permission,, just do it!! Good luck-- have fun!!JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)