Audio GD versus Emotiva

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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited March 2013
    You don't its clearly not for you and you would be very biased anyway..
    According to the reviews I posted in another thread I would say its on par with your gear..
    So for you it would be a lateral move..
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Why do I need to hear it again?
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited March 2013
    Yes you would..:lol:
    If only for Beyonce..
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I wouldn't go to this even if they parked their truck across the street from my house, gave away free food and beer, and had Beyonce giving free lap dances.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited March 2013
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I wouldn't go to this even if they parked their truck across the street from my house, gave away free food and beer, and had Beyonce giving free lap dances.
    Props to you ,your such a rebel.:rolleyes:
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited March 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Why anyone thinks this thread is about the quality of Chinese manufacturing is beyond me. The point was, and still is, the contention that the reason why Emo is able to price so low is because the gear is made in China, and not because the level of audio design and sound quality is at the lower end of the scale.

    I had always read Emotiva gear was cheaper because of direct internet sales, and eliminating the distributors and dealers. Not because they were made in China, just about all brands are made in China these days.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,602
    edited March 2013
    Emo seems to be the fat chick of the audio world. Am I right?:cheesygrin:
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,224
    edited March 2013
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I wouldn't go to this even if they parked their truck across the street from my house, gave away free food and beer, and had Beyonce giving free lap dances.


    Liar!!
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited March 2013
    halo71 wrote: »
    Emo seems to be the fat chick of the audio world. Am I right?:cheesygrin:
    everyone has tried it once, but nobody will admit it?
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  • shadowlight
    shadowlight Posts: 327
    edited March 2013
    audiocr381ve wrote: »
    I'm a fan of Emotiva, but not the XDA-1 DAC that I had. It was sterile & bright IMO. I have not heard the XDA-2 so I can't comment on their current DAC's.

    I had purchase the XDA2 and found it bright so had to return it. Have not heard any AudioGD DAC but heard positive things about them mostly on head-fi.org and diyaudio.com website. If one based on Wolfson DAC comes up for sale I will most likely give it a shot and see how it works in my system. I find most of the Sabre based dac's to be bright. My ear's are sensitive :-)
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited March 2013
    DSkip wrote: »
    Anybody else feel this way? I've been eying the Oppo 105 as a future installment and its Sabre-based. I've never heard a DAC that utilizes the chip.
    I have a Sabre based DAC(9018) and bright would not be how I describe it.But different power supply scheme and analog stages make comparisons an apple oranges kind of thing IMO.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited March 2013
    shadowlight wrote: »
    I had purchase the XDA2 and found it bright so had to return it.
    Have not heard any AudioGD DAC but heard positive things about them mostly on head-fi.org and diyaudio.com website. If one based on Wolfson DAC comes up for sale I will most likely give it a shot and see how it works in my system. I find most of the Sabre based dac's to be bright. My ear's are sensitive :-)

    I have heard a couple of Audio-gd DACs. I wouldn't describe them as bright.
    I have listened to the Dac-19 and of course the NFB-3. They sell gear
    as standalone and combo dac/headphone amp. And in different price ranges.
    They certainly have gear in the same price range as EMO. As far as chipsets
    go, the way it's implemented is more important to the sound
    than the chipset used. I have no idea how this thread degraded into the
    mud so quickly. DACs should only be judged by performance.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,495
    edited March 2013
    FTGV wrote: »
    Nah,those TP Buf designs with all those shunt regulator thingies are over rated IMO.:razz:

    We who bought into the hype call it build to suit and optimized to the max. :cheesygrin:

    I be discrete... :cool:

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2013
    Ah Rich, you made it home safe.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,495
    edited March 2013
    Yeah, that was some thick fog! Opened up around De Kalb. It was good hooking up, been too long.:cool:
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited March 2013
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    I had always read Emotiva gear was cheaper because of direct internet sales, and eliminating the distributors and dealers. Not because they were made in China, just about all brands are made in China these days.

    Nope, just gear on the low to lower-mid grade of the audio scale. As has been stated a number of times. You get what you pay for......
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    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited March 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    You don't its clearly not for you and you would be very biased anyway..
    According to the reviews I posted in another thread I would say its on par with your gear..
    So for you it would be a lateral move..

    You're joking right?
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited March 2013
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    And a fine DAC it is! DIY can take you much further up the quality chain than buying new/used retail. A rule of thumb is parts/labor 1/4 of the retail cost. That will vary of course depending on business model.

    Do you do one leg at a time or both?:cheesygrin:

    Thank you Rich. That means a lot after seeing the beauty you assembled. No toobs though. Gotta get those glass bottles a glowin' in your DAC. Actually, I read a while back that Twisted Pear was thinking of making a tube based analog output stage for their Buffalo DAC. I haven't checked on it recently though.

    To answer your question, it requires almost my full attention to get one leg on at a time.:wink:
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2013
    headrott wrote: »
    You're joking right?

    Greg, don't take the bait, let it go.

    H9
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,224
    edited March 2013
    It's just audio!!!
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  • shadowlight
    shadowlight Posts: 327
    edited March 2013
    FTGV wrote: »
    I have a Sabre based DAC(9018) and bright would not be how I describe it.But different power supply scheme and analog stages make comparisons an apple oranges kind of thing IMO.
    DSkip wrote: »
    Anybody else feel this way? I've been eying the Oppo 105 as a future installment and its Sabre-based. I've never heard a DAC that utilizes the chip.

    I believe everything comes down to synergy (hate that word) and how sensitive your ears are to high frequency. The Sabre sounded great for a short while but after 2 to 3 hrs of listening at moderate volume (<65 db at listening position) my ears start to hurt.

    My suggestion is to always try any equipment with your setup. What works for one might not work for someone else.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited March 2013
    shadowlight wrote: »
    I believe everything comes down to synergy (hate that word) and how sensitive you ears are to high frequency. The Sabre sounded great for a short while but after 2 to 3 hrs of listening at moderate volume (<65 db at listening position) my ears start to hurt.

    My suggestion is to always try any equipment with your setup. What works for one might not work for someone else.

    I would think it has to do with the analog output stage more than the DAC that made it sound bright. My TP Buff II (that uses the Sabre 9018 DAC) with the tube output analog stage does not sound bright. It is clean, clear, high resolution, and great tone!
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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