LSiM 707 VS SDA speakers

heiney9

naturallight wrote: »

But the "towers" i have tried out so far, i just did not think were better over all then even my unmodified 1C's. In some cases they were just too fatiguing.

Very surprising since the sl2000 is a god awful fatiguing tweeter. That's not to say other speakers can't be/aren't fatiguing. Of all the models that use the sl2000 the progressive point source SDA's are the most laid back that tweeter can sound, but it's still grating and fatiguing much of the time.

You have no idea what you are in for as far as improvement when you get the RD0 tweeters and refresh the 20+ year old crossovers. :razz:

H9

Loud & Clear

I owned a fully modded pair of SRS 2s for years. Fantastic. But they still couldn't reproduce the transparency, the speed, the midrange presence, or articulate texture like some of modern designs I've heard, including LSis. The vocals were one of the problems I had with SDAs that were really highlighted after I got the Opus 2-3s. Part of the difference is due to having speakers that fire directly at you, and part of it is due to superior drivers. To suddenly have midrange (vocals) hit you with such clarity and presence is extremely exciting. I couldn't go back to SDAs full-time after something like that. But maybe that's specific to me and my ears. Who knows. I could see getting another pair of big SDAs for the fun of the huge stage and realistic deep bass impact. There's a pair of 2.3tls in Ohio that are tempting me as we speak. I also find the SRS SDAs to be very attractive. They look really nice in a home, imo.

naturallight

Good lord no...I'm not saying the SL2000 are good tweeters, plus one of the first things i'm going to change out...LOL If i was comparing these speakers in a small room where i had the SDA's before which was like a 12x12 or 12x14 at most..to be honest..the SDA's would have lost the battle.



But since i finally finished my basement..thats were i tested the speakers..which is 17x30.

As with everything in stereo...everything matters...LOL In that size room the 1C's come alive..and i sit 15 feet back..not that the 2000's are great..but not completely nasty at that far back. The Klipsch on the other hand..are just to over bearing for me...lets say too brite for my taste.

Yes the 2000's will get to me after a while..depends on what i'm playing..and no there not great tweeters....LOL



The Towers are all very "directional" speakers per say. They will throw a nice sound stage at you.



But once you throw the SDA's back in play....things just change..you sit in a more open and airy and for lack of better words ..more musical presentation of the music. They may not be as "accurate" at this point...but something you would rather listen to..if that makes any sense....LOL

DarqueKnight

DSkip wrote: »

DK, I'd be curious how the LSiM's would compare with improved crossover networks. I think that might level the playing field some.

If Polk would send me a pair of 707's with modded crossovers, I'd be happy to do the shootout. I'd even do the mods if they paid for the parts.

D_M

DarqueKnight wrote: »

If Polk would send me a pair of 707's with modded crossovers, I'd be happy to do the shootout. I'd even do the mods if they paid for the parts.

That's a great idea. Maybe you could start a buying pool. With enough people interested, we could probably purchase a set in the persuit of science. I'll put my money where my mouth is. I'll commit a $100 to the cause. We would actually need two sets though. One modded and the other stock.

naturallight

This is only my "opinion", but i think speakers can be winners or losers for you dependent on the size of the room and what your trying to do with them. Plus of course everybodys ear, and what you expect out of the speakers.

Now if you have a good size room say 17x30 (only because thats the size of my room and what i tested the speakers in) If you take towers, toe them in to 1 seating position, so that it gets the 'sweet spot" That 1 person is in luck. If you have other people in the room, there pretty much out of luck.



In my case, i set the speakers about equal distance apart in the room, firing strait ahead. Put the seating position about 15 feet back or so, it could be a little more. That way i can have at least another person sitting and listening, if not 2 people, besides me. Now all speakers react differently in different size rooms. In a much smaller room say 12x14 or so. I think the Axioms would have won the battle. They seemed to be the best "eq'ed" of the bunch. But you put them in a large room, they just run out of steam far to fast, and can't keep up. The RTi 12's on the other, have no problem with that size room, they will keep up with the bass the 1C's will give you, and throw the widest sound stage of all the towers. BUT, and maybe this is only me. They seem to be very mid rangey speakers, overly so. If you could sit there with a control for the cross-over..tone down the mid range some, and put a better tweeter in there, that would be 1 hell of a speaker....LOL



Then you bring out the 1C's. In a small room, they would have lost hands down. They just don't work that well. You would have packed them up said there too old out of date time to retire these.



You put them in a large room..they open up and breath...everything changes. Now they are NOT the most "accurate" speaker of the bunch..at least mine are not at this point. That may change as i upgrade them. The only reason the SDA's win, is probably do mostly to the SDA "effect" itself, plus the bass presentation from them. I can put a couch in the back of the room, and 3 guys can sit there and everybody will have a good seating position. It's the over all musical presentation and ok maybe the "tactile" feel from the speakers, that the towers just can not give you.

Again, this is only MY "opinion" on the speakers i have tried so far in my room...to meet MY needs

tonyb

beat it, stroke....