audioquest king cobra's ?

soundfreak1
soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
edited March 2013 in 2 Channel Audio
A pair listed neer me used, what should i have to pay for them? 1 METER LONG. Just havent a clue to there value. Apprecate some input please.
Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited February 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    A pair listed neer me used, what should i have to pay for them? 1 METER LONG. Just havent a clue to there value. Apprecate some input please.

    I wouldn't pay over $110 (RCA connectors)

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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited February 2013
    He not far off that he wants 125.00 "firm"
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2013
    $165.00-$185.00 would be a good price for the King Cobra's (1M)
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited February 2013
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    $165.00-$185.00 would be a good price for the King Cobra's (1M)

    Heck for that I'd go to audiogon and pic up a set of AQ Jaguars with the DBS for $190.

    I sold my pair of King Cobras here on the Flea Market for $100.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited February 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    He not far off that he wants 125.00 "firm"
    Thats a good price if they are in good condition. If he's firm , then I'm gonna assume they are. Get them , they are very good.
    Dan
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited February 2013
    That's 50% off retail (MSRP $249) for new 1.0m King Cobras.

    If they are in very good condition, that sounds like a good price to me.

    I use King Cobras, and they produce excellent sound.
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • specd_out
    specd_out Posts: 505
    edited February 2013
    I love mine. Well worth $125. The whole blanket removed off the speakers phenomenon is true
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    2Channel Rig Polk Audio LSi9 Cherry| Carver C-1BillD Mod|Carver M1.0t MkII Opt2|Pro-ject RM 1.3|SpeedBox S|AQ King Cobras|AQ Rocket88|
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited February 2013
    I used to run the KCs. Good interconnects and $125 is a good price for a 1m pair.
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  • miner
    miner Posts: 1,305
    edited February 2013
    Sold mine for $75 when I sold my RC-1072 to a member here.
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    edited February 2013
    I bought mine here for $100 and would have no problem paying $125. Wish I had more of them....
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  • Lost240
    Lost240 Posts: 176
    edited February 2013
    Last pair I saw on ebay went for $130
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited February 2013
    Lost240 wrote: »
    Last pair I saw on ebay went for $130

    What are you selling since you are running up your post count by posting to everything you can find.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2013
    There's a lot of bootleg Audioquest stuff out there. Be very, very cautious from an unknown seller.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited February 2013
    Sounds like the price is'nt terrible, so i guess i'll call the guy up. Thanks for all the input it helps alot. Hate to pay too much or pay too little! ( thats when i get burned ) .
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    edited February 2013
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    There's a lot of bootleg Audioquest stuff out there. Be very, very cautious from an unknown seller.

    this is true, I made that mistake once... make sure they have original packaging or at least original receipt. Someone else may know better on how to tell if its fake.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited February 2013
    From a private seller, ive heard about the new in package from china and hong kong scams but not used ones. It is always possible though. Any tips would be helpfull to id them as i have never seen them in person just in the picts.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited February 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    From a private seller, ive heard about the new in package from china and hong kong scams but not used ones. It is always possible though. Any tips would be helpfull to id them as i have never seen them in person just in the picts.

    I purchased a fake pair from an eBay listing, and I returned them to the seller after going through the PayPal dispute resolution process.

    The first indication that something may not be "right" is the absence of original packaging. I talked with an Audioquest Regional Sales VP, who told me what I had also read elsewhere -- Counterfeiters can counterfeit the cables more easily than they can counterfeit the packaging. Hence, they don't do it.

    In my case, the seller had packaging, but it indicated the incorrect length on the box. It had apparently been "borrowed" from another pair of legitimate cables.

    Two other indicators of counterfeits are: 1) The color of the connectors is not quite right. It helps to have a genuine pair of cables to make this comparison. It also helps to have a spouse who is much better about judging colors than I am!

    2) The color of the braided covering on the cables may be off. Again, it helps to have a genuine pair of cables to make the comparison.

    In my case, both these latter two indicators were present.

    However, if the "illegitimate" cables are not counterfeit, but are a pair that an Audioquest contract firm in China produced along with their legitimate production run for Audioquest, but shipped "out the back door," then as far as I know there is no way to tell the difference. In fact, there may not be any physical difference, only a difference in the legitimacy of the sales channel. This "illegitimacy" deprives Audioquest of revenue that allows them to recover their R&D costs, which means less R&D and fewer innovations.

    Of course, if you buy the cables, and the sound is rotten, then they're probably fakes.
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited February 2013
    moose68bash wrote: »
    i purchased a fake pair from an ebay listing, and i returned them to the seller after going through the paypal dispute resolution process.

    The first indication that something may not be "right" is the absence of original packaging. I talked with an audioquest regional sales vp, who told me what i had also read elsewhere -- counterfeiters can counterfeit the cables more easily than they can counterfeit the packaging. Hence, they don't do it.

    In my case, the seller had packaging, but it indicated the incorrect length on the box. It had apparently been "borrowed" from another pair of legitimate cables.

    Two other indicators of counterfeits are: 1) the color of the connectors is not quite right. It helps to have a genuine pair of cables to make this comparison. It also helps to have a spouse who is much better about judging colors than i am!

    2) the color of the braided covering on the cables may be off. Again, it helps to have a genuine pair of cables to make the comparison.

    In my case, both these latter two indicators were present.

    However, if the "illegitimate" cables are not counterfeit, but are a pair that an audioquest contract firm in china produced along with their legitimate production run for audioquest, but shipped "out the back door," then as far as i know there is no way to tell the difference. In fact, there may not be any physical difference, only a difference in the legitimacy of the sales channel. This "illegitimacy" deprives audioquest of revenue that allows them to recover their r&d costs, which means less r&d and fewer innovations.

    Of course, if you buy the cables, and the sound is rotten, then they're probably fakes.



    oh great!!! "its like you cant get there from here"lol
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited February 2013
    BTW Thanks for the detailed info moose i do appreiate it.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited February 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    BTW Thanks for the detailed info moose i do appreiate it.

    You're welcome.

    Buying cables sight unseen is a risky business. Unless you're willing to take that risk for the potential savings, you're likely better off buying through normal channels.

    IMHO! :smile:
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited March 2013
    I will "see" them before i buy as they are local. However i have no exp. with them so wouldnt know real vs knockoffs buy visual inspection ( truth be known) . Ive compaired the picts and they look ok. So who knows! Wish i could find them here where i would feel more confident in the seller, maybe i need to be more patient. Tax money burning a hole in my pocket!LOL ive been wanting to go this way for a while now.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited March 2013
    As an aside: how important would it be to "match" i/c's. Ie from my DAC to my pre, than from pre to my amp.( see "main rig" listed below. Thanks
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited March 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    As an aside: how important would it be to "match" i/c's. Ie from my DAC to my pre, than from pre to my amp.( see "main rig" listed below. Thanks

    Important, but violation will not result in the audio gods descending upon you abode in wrath - just mild disdain from afar...:wink:

    Those who subscribe to realization that everything matters will tell you from firsthand experience that different cables will impart subtle to dramatic changes -so, most times you want the ICs to match, sometimes it depends.

    I'd make them match to start to establish a sonic baseline, if you will - then if there is something subtle you just don't quite like or would like to tweak - an IC change could be just the thing.

    imo, of course.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited March 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    As an aside: how important would it be to "match" i/c's. Ie from my DAC to my pre, than from pre to my amp.( see "main rig" listed below. Thanks

    Don't worry about it. If you already have a cable in mind you like the sound of, roll with that. If not, nothing wrong with using different brands to mix and match. Sometimes those other combinations can produce better results than just sticking to one brand. The only exception I can think of are MIT cables. They seem to have a more pronounced effect when everything in the chain is MIT. Knock your socks off, experiment.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited March 2013
    Thanks
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited March 2013
    Well i got them...... And yes Virginia there is a diff in cables!!!!!!!!!
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • specd_out
    specd_out Posts: 505
    edited March 2013
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    Well i got them...... And yes Virginia there is a diff in cables!!!!!!!!!

    I agree 100%. I love mine. I believe that everything makes a difference for the good or the bad. The question isnt if it makes a difference, the question is if the difference is worth the cost.
    HT Rig Samsung 64F8500 |Pioneer Elite BDP-52FD|Pioneer Elite VSX-32| Two Carver TFM-15cb Bridged for mains|Polk Audio RTiA5 Cherry|Polk Audio CsiA6 Cherry|Polk Audio T-15 Heights|Polk Audio FXia6 Surround|DIY 8cuft Dayton Ultimax 15" powered with a Crown XLS1000
    2Channel Rig Polk Audio LSi9 Cherry| Carver C-1BillD Mod|Carver M1.0t MkII Opt2|Pro-ject RM 1.3|SpeedBox S|AQ King Cobras|AQ Rocket88|
    ISF Level 2 Certified Calibrator
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited March 2013
    specd_out wrote: »
    I agree 100%. I love mine. I believe that everything makes a difference for the good or the bad. The question isnt if it makes a difference, the question is if the difference is worth the cost.

    Dont know of anything i could do for a hundo that could make more improvement! so yes it is worth it! Now i need one more pair.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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