Jesse [F1nut]....this one's for you!

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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited February 2013
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Vinyl will increase for a short more period, but at some point new vinyl users will tire of the hassle and expense of vinyl, and stop buying. Plus they will tell their friends to not bother as it is to much of a hassle for minimal return. When you have an article that says there is a 70% increase, and the total is "389,000 LPs sold", you know there isn't much of a future. On the other hand, high-res digital downloads will continue until it is replaced by on-demand streaming of high-res files.

    Hopefully, I'll be around when they all start dumping them for cheap.
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,341
    edited February 2013
    I've seen Rich's DIY vinyl storage rack. It rivals his DAC in build quality.

    I'm lovin' vinyl and digital. More things to spend money on. LOL!

    Rock on wit yo bad self!!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited February 2013
    I suppose we should be grateful for any physical media these days. How's that for an olive branch....LOL
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited February 2013
    Perhaps we should show the SACD devices we have in place!
    Love that Esoteric I own.
    Michael ;)
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited February 2013
    Maybe Keiko will chime in with some vinyl wrapped pie. I'm gonna go count my vinyl. Six thousand one...Six thousand two...
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,215
    edited February 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    I suppose we should be grateful for any physical media these days. How's that for an olive branch....LOL

    No doubt, Jesse. I fear for the day when up and comers to this hobby have to research into what a CD or LP was. Much like today's generation hasn't ever seen a rotary phone, betamax, laser discs, PDA's, pagers, typewriters, slide projectors, Polaroid cameras, 8 track tapes and CRT or tube TV's. Like you, I prefer physical media and I think you are right. We should be grateful.

    Tom
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited February 2013
    I love digital and vinyl also, but there's just something aboyt vinyl that is so seductive. I'm glad we still have physical media also!
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2013
    I dig both.

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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited February 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    I suppose we should be grateful for any physical media these days. How's that for an olive branch....LOL

    You're just as warm and lovable as ever Jesse! :cheesygrin:
    No excuses!
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  • dscheer
    dscheer Posts: 47
    edited February 2013
    You Know!...It's not just the sound of well engineered vinyl, It's beyond that. I enjoy my CDs (easy to use) But as is the warmth of vacuum tube rigs with thier glow, as is the vinyl spinning (In View) with all the mechanics involved before one's stare, as the styles contacts the grove ,Yes! an occasional pop or click, But for some anolog is shear heaven, and as I shared it's not just the sound, It's the entire process and within one's view. But I enjoy my CDs. Depends on the mood I'm in at the time I suppose.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited February 2013
    Anyone read the piece in the new Stereophile about the "digital" vinyl?
    I try to buy original stuff in great shape and be careful about how remasters are done just for this reason.I agree with the writer that once you remaster to digital it's digital.Putting it on vinyl at that point is like kissing your sister if you want true analog.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    edited February 2013
    :cheesygrin:


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    or.....

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    --Gary--
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited February 2013
    I dig both formats....and don't forget R-R!!
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,513
    edited February 2013
    And lets not forget album art! Big images, and text I can read without my tri-focals.:cheesygrin:

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    My fav, before digital imaging, Hipgnosis cover art.

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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,513
    edited February 2013
    Msabot1 wrote: »
    I dig both formats....and don't forget R-R!!

    Jasper digs R2R too! I just have to be careful about loose leaders after a fast rewind...

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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2013
    Just goes to show you that cats KNOW analog! You cannot beat a master tape on a TOTL R2R even if you do have a TT that looks like a Monster Roomba and has the "proper amount of suction". After all TAPE was the recording "medium" for all that vinyl!

    I remember when we used to ooh and ahhh over RTRs back in that day. We never had that reaction to TTs but envied the Master Tape Machine! Probably still do. But master tapes are pretty rare and very pricey to come by!

    cnh
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,215
    edited February 2013
    RTR is something I wish I had never gotten rid of.

    *sigh*

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Tankman
    Tankman Posts: 419
    edited February 2013
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Watch cat loves and guards turntable until I get home! And no, he has never put a scratch on it.

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    One of the best Threads I have read in a long time...SCompRacer...V
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,215
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    I'd say that it is definitely on the rise.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,008
    cnh wrote: »
    Just goes to show you that cats KNOW analog! You cannot beat a master tape on a TOTL R2R even if you do have a TT that looks like a Monster Roomba and has the "proper amount of suction". After all TAPE was the recording "medium" for all that vinyl!

    I remember when we used to ooh and ahhh over RTRs back in that day. We never had that reaction to TTs but envied the Master Tape Machine! Probably still do. But master tapes are pretty rare and very pricey to come by!

    cnh


    Good point chief, having been a R2R baby myself, SQ is off the charts.

    I think Vinyl sales are increasing to the higher end crowd, not the average joe. The higher end crowd has deeper pockets, good tables and systems to extract what good vinyl has to offer. Playing a well recorded record on a P.O.S. player in a mediocre system still yields bad sound....in my book anyway. In other words, good vinyl playback costs some coinage which the younger generations are seemingly unwilling to spend.

    But when that new Iphone 7 comes out.....look out !!
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    well I did my part on Vinyl sales this year, it could have been over 2k I spent this year.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,008
    BTW Jess....if your still in the hunt for a mini-v sub....seen one on the 'gon for 400...only thing is it's white.
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    But if you can find the elusive black paint you could change it....
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    F1nut wrote: »
    I suppose we should be grateful for any physical media these days. How's that for an olive branch....LOL

    Well said!
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    I dunno....I am in the way below average crowd here. And my 15 year old daughter is wanting a turntable! I was so proud when she asked me for one! But it seems that a lot of her friends are getting into vinyl.

    Now I gotta find a somewhat decent table on the cheap soon. Think I got a line on a old Technics though.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,328
    Good luck with a teen and a turntable, at least you can educate her.
    In hindsight we (friends and I as teens) were probably pretty brutal with the TT and vinyl, wrestling around and such while albums playing. Don't rule out a pioneer etc...slap on a decent cart and show her the ropes.

    Really happy you are passing along a vintage tradition...very cool of the 2 of ya
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    edited December 2014
    Thanks! She is pretty responsible I think. I set up a little system in her room last year. Mirage M590i's, a small Mirage sub, H&K power amp, Phase Linear pre and a Denon CD player. Does not sound half bad. The Onkyo pre I had in their bit the dust a little while back. She wants an old Pioneer receiver I have to replace the power amp and pre. Says its too much stuff sitting on her shelves! lol

    I had a PSW350 sub in there but the damn thing sounds like it has emphysema when music is loud. With all the port huffing and noise it makes. I gotta say, that is a terrible sub! But I got it free so I can not complain too much.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,513
    Some guys and gals are real protective of their vinyl addiction....

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