Excess power cable length

jimbo1421
jimbo1421 Posts: 772
edited February 2013 in Electronics
Hello,

I am rearranging my HT stand and would like to improve the cable management while I am at it. What is the best thing to with the excess length of power cable for all these components. There are six of them which is a lot electrons running around loose. Coiling them seems to be a mistake. A coil of wire with current running through it makes an electromagnet, right? My previous solution was to bundle the slack in each cable in a zig zag pattern like this: /\/\/\/\/\ and pull it together with zip ties. Then three of these cable bundles were each bundled with a velcro tie. Is this OK or is there a better way? I do the best I can to keep them away from signal wires, but it is not easy.

Jim
5.1 System:
TCL R613 55" 4K
Front: SRS-3.1TL
Center: CS400i
Surround: Monitor 10B
PSW10 subwoofer
Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro
NAD T955 5 channel power amplifier
Technics SL-1710 MK2 turntable
Audio-Technica AT14Sa cartridge
Parasound P3 pre-amp
Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray
2014 MacBook Pro 2.8 GHz

2.0 Office System:
Monitor 10A (Peerless)
Outlaw 1050 receiver
Parasound HCA-1000A power amp
MacPro
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited February 2013
    If your gear has removable power cords , you can get shorter ones from companies like Audioquest. Lets say it has absolutely no performance benefits at all(which I have found sonic benefits) , but it will greatly clean up your wiring AND not cause any interference issues with coiled cords.

    If a piece of gear has a long attached power cord , what you wanna do is run it the longest distance to the power center as possible. Leave it loose and go past the power center then back. You can manage power cords all together parallel with no issues.

    Keeping them away from signal cables is always a good idea. It's not practical in all situations but what I do is pick a side of the rack that most of the power cords are on and use that path for them. Then I route all signal cables on the other side.
    I wouldn't sweat it to much as I have had to run both signal and power together many times and didn't notice any audio noise or degrade in performance. Over the years I have tested this thoery many times and as long as you have a well built high quality power cable , this becomes less of an issue. Some or most of the factory powercords do emit interference , I try to keep those cords as far away as possible. You need at least 6 inches away parallel to avoid issues.
    Cable management is a art form I have perfected over the years.
    Dan
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited February 2013
    mantis wrote: »
    Cable management is a art form I have perfected over the years.

    You know the rules............
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  • Speedskater
    Speedskater Posts: 495
    edited February 2013
    jimbo1421 wrote: »
    Hello,
    .............................
    There are six of them which is a lot electrons running around loose. Coiling them seems to be a mistake. A coil of wire with current running through it makes an electromagnet, right?
    ...........................
    Jim

    A coil of wire does make an electromagnet. But in this case we have a cable with two wires. The current in one ire is going one direction while the current in the other wire is going in the opposite direction. So the two fields cancel each other out and no electromagnet.
  • jimbo1421
    jimbo1421 Posts: 772
    edited February 2013
    Thanks for your suggestions , Dan. They should be easy enough to implement.

    Jim
    5.1 System:
    TCL R613 55" 4K
    Front: SRS-3.1TL
    Center: CS400i
    Surround: Monitor 10B
    PSW10 subwoofer
    Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro
    NAD T955 5 channel power amplifier
    Technics SL-1710 MK2 turntable
    Audio-Technica AT14Sa cartridge
    Parasound P3 pre-amp
    Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray
    2014 MacBook Pro 2.8 GHz

    2.0 Office System:
    Monitor 10A (Peerless)
    Outlaw 1050 receiver
    Parasound HCA-1000A power amp
    MacPro
  • jimbo1421
    jimbo1421 Posts: 772
    edited February 2013
    A coil of wire does make an electromagnet. But in this case we have a cable with two wires. The current in one ire is going one direction while the current in the other wire is going in the opposite direction. So the two fields cancel each other out and no electromagnet.

    OK, I get that. But do these opposite magnetic fields generate noise in signal wires or is the noise canceled out? Or partially cancelled out?

    Jim
    5.1 System:
    TCL R613 55" 4K
    Front: SRS-3.1TL
    Center: CS400i
    Surround: Monitor 10B
    PSW10 subwoofer
    Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro
    NAD T955 5 channel power amplifier
    Technics SL-1710 MK2 turntable
    Audio-Technica AT14Sa cartridge
    Parasound P3 pre-amp
    Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray
    2014 MacBook Pro 2.8 GHz

    2.0 Office System:
    Monitor 10A (Peerless)
    Outlaw 1050 receiver
    Parasound HCA-1000A power amp
    MacPro
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited February 2013
    Whatever placement of the cord, that is not a coil, should work fine.
  • jimbo1421
    jimbo1421 Posts: 772
    edited February 2013
    zingo wrote: »
    Whatever placement of the cord, that is not a coil, should work fine.

    Hi Jake,

    So is the zig zag bundle that I described above OK? It's like the way cords are often bundled new in the box.

    Jim
    5.1 System:
    TCL R613 55" 4K
    Front: SRS-3.1TL
    Center: CS400i
    Surround: Monitor 10B
    PSW10 subwoofer
    Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro
    NAD T955 5 channel power amplifier
    Technics SL-1710 MK2 turntable
    Audio-Technica AT14Sa cartridge
    Parasound P3 pre-amp
    Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray
    2014 MacBook Pro 2.8 GHz

    2.0 Office System:
    Monitor 10A (Peerless)
    Outlaw 1050 receiver
    Parasound HCA-1000A power amp
    MacPro
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited February 2013
    I prefer zig-zag or out-and-back when I need to take up cable length.
  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited February 2013
    Yep, zig-zag seems to work well to my ears and extra power cable length. The best is a shorter cable length of course, however. If that's not an option zingo's recommendation is the best.
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