Is there a "BEST" SRS speaker??
naturallight
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We have the 1.2TL, the 2.3TL and the 3.1TL. I get the feelings these different models were made, pretty much because most people just did not have the space for 1.2's nore the power to really push them. I don't think the "technology" is radically different between them, but that could be completely wrong.
Is there a best of the best, or are we talking person preference, or are we talking if you don't have the room size for them to "breath" don't even think about them. Even my 1C's don't work all that well in a small room.
If i want to go up from 1C's..it has to be one of these models. But which one do i shot for?
If it really comes down to room size. My room is 17X30, but there is also an opening to my other music room on one side of the wall. The ceiling is about 7 1/2 feet high, dropped acoustical tile.
My 1c's work more then fine in that room. I don't "think" the 1.2's would run out of "breathing space" but i'm not sure. Dose anybody have an opinion on these models as to which ones they like or don't like, or what there preference would be??
Is there a best of the best, or are we talking person preference, or are we talking if you don't have the room size for them to "breath" don't even think about them. Even my 1C's don't work all that well in a small room.
If i want to go up from 1C's..it has to be one of these models. But which one do i shot for?
If it really comes down to room size. My room is 17X30, but there is also an opening to my other music room on one side of the wall. The ceiling is about 7 1/2 feet high, dropped acoustical tile.
My 1c's work more then fine in that room. I don't "think" the 1.2's would run out of "breathing space" but i'm not sure. Dose anybody have an opinion on these models as to which ones they like or don't like, or what there preference would be??
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30 x 17 is not a small room, any of the 3 should be fine. I prefer the 2.3TL's as they seem a bit more musical.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Don't forget the SRS 2's, they are not the TL models, but a very good all around SDA. Think of the 1C's on steroids.
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Thanks F1 for the info. Good to know the room should handle any of the speakers.
If you say the 2.3TL's are more musical..I believe you...LOL
Question..or a couple of questions..LOL Do the2.3's use the same MW6511 drivers the 1C's do?
would tend to sell my 1c's if i can find a set of 2.3's ...BUT..if they use the same drivers..mine are original..i would tend to keep the 1c's for parts...which is pretty nasty to pillage a set of 1C's..BUT
The other question would be power. I use an Onkyo M504 to power the 1C's...not a problem, works great. The 2.3's..not so sure. I'm not sure i want to jump to the Carver camp to get the 300+ watts. Not sure i really like the sound from the Carver stuff..but don't want to under power the speakers and kill the M504 or clip the speakers.
To power the 1C's..the M504 is bouncing off the 50 watt setting..if the meters are correct at all. BUT that is really LOUD..your up to between the 10:30 and 11:30 oclock position on the pre. Depending on the source CD..this is REALLY loud. Probably ALOT louder then most people really want to hear.
BUT the 1C's are 6 Ohm, the 2.3's are 8....don't want to damage the speakers or the amp. Plus the general rule is more power is always better. -
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naturallight wrote: »Thanks F1 for the info. Good to know the room should handle any of the speakers.
If you say the 2.3TL's are more musical..I believe you...LOL
Question..or a couple of questions..LOL Do the2.3's use the same MW6511 drivers the 1C's do?
would tend to sell my 1c's if i can find a set of 2.3's ...BUT..if they use the same drivers..mine are original..i would tend to keep the 1c's for parts...which is pretty nasty to pillage a set of 1C's..BUT
The other question would be power. I use an Onkyo M504 to power the 1C's...not a problem, works great. The 2.3's..not so sure. I'm not sure i want to jump to the Carver camp to get the 300+ watts. Not sure i really like the sound from the Carver stuff..but don't want to under power the speakers and kill the M504 or clip the speakers.
To power the 1C's..the M504 is bouncing off the 50 watt setting..if the meters are correct at all. BUT that is really LOUD..your up to between the 10:30 and 11:30 oclock position on the pre. Depending on the source CD..this is REALLY loud. Probably ALOT louder then most people really want to hear.
BUT the 1C's are 6 Ohm, the 2.3's are 8....don't want to damage the speakers or the amp. Plus the general rule is more GOOD QUALITY power is always better.
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Yes they are :cheesygrin:
And all of the mw drivers are 6510 that's a big plus in case you want to stick back a few replacements JIC:cool:30 x 17 is not a small room, any of the 3 should be fine. I prefer the 2.3TL's as they seem a bit more musical.POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
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All drivers are MW6510 in 2.3tls.
Don't play them so loud as to damage them or your ears, my 2.3tls are on an Onyko NR808 if I do play it louder it's it two channel direct mode.
There is nothing wrong with (my) 1C.
They are not my 2.3tls but I could get by just fine if I needed to , just do the x-overs and the tweets and spike those guys!!
Have you read this book ......http://vr3mods.com/uploads/SDA_Handbook_2011_Rev2.pdf
It's a pdf give it a minute or two to load.POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
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Yes there is.
Mine!!
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Yes there is.
Mine!!
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No truer statement here. Like I've read and heard many times; the best ones are the ones you own or are able to obtain for your listening pleasure.If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!
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Thanks mike but i live in GA..kind of in nomans land for stereo. I have a mustang..i can put my Advents in there..thats about it...LOL
I will have to pay for transport of these speakers..no matter what.
I also "ASSUME" the SRS speakers are pretty much going to kick my butt..as compared to my 1C's
As that would be pretty depressing if they didn't......
If i spend the money to get them here...and they don't sound much better the the 1C's...then that would be really nasty.
If i redo the 1C's...then maybe how far off from the 3.1's do they sound?
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The answer to your original question is: the one you have. It's kind of like with girls, love the one you're with...the best girl is the one you have. Your 1c's are your best girls and as you move around the world you may bump into some others you have an interest in. When some of the big SDA's come up for sale in your area go listen to them and if you like them buy em. Try and not be bothered with what someone else thinks of your speakers or your girl.
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OK..so now your telling me that all the drivers in 2.3's are all MW6510's...why the hell did they make the MW6511 for the 1C's??? What was the purpose??
10's you can get on Ebay..pretty easy..11's....almost not.
Just a stupid question..why???
The 3.1's are not so far off the mark from the 1C's..the cab size or whatever is not that far away..plus the fact it only has 1 more driver in it, an lacks the other tweeter..i'm not sure what the deal is......
the PR is the same size in the 3.1 ...In some things here..i just don't get it. -
BUT the 1C's are 6 Ohm, the 2.3's are 8....don't want to damage the speakers or the amp. Plus the general rule is more power is always better.
The 2.3TL's are 6 ohm nominal and as NJPOLKER stated, quality over quantity.If i spend the money to get them here...and they don't sound much better the the 1C's...then that would be really nasty.
Don't worry, the 2.3TL's will not disappoint you.Political Correctness'.........defined
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The manual states 2.3TL's are 8 ohm.
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I own the SRS 2.3's and have heard the 2.3 TLs extensively. You will hear differing opinions on this subject. Both sound very good. I prefer the SRS 2.3s, I think they are a little smoother. Mine have had extensive modifications. You can't go wrong either way. It's more a matter of taste and maybe perception. Everything matters. So if you hear the SRS or the TLs in a different room environment, different electronics, source, etc. all of the affect the sound of the speakers. If you were in the market. I would consider the size of your room, proper placement as most important. Just because it's a TL won't make it sound better, that may be a matter of taste as both speakers are only slightly different to my ear. I believe the SRS 2.3a are smoother than their TL equivalent. YMMV. As for the SRS or the TLs I would look for the speaker in the best operating condition, physical appearance and of course price.
Good luck!Carl -
The best Polk speaker in the world is the one you are listening to right now.
Would that make the next Polk speaker you get the "next best"?
I have almost finished collecting my Polk speakers. If I ever come across a pair of 1.2s I'll grab them too.
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The 2.3TL's are the best in the SRS series, IMO (although it's been many years since hearing the 1.2TL's). I own the 3.1TL's 2.3TL's and I have just about the same size room as you naturallight and they sound phenominal. If you buy the ones in the linked page above, you will be happy. Although, I would ask the seller what caps/resistors he redid the crossovers with.
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
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My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
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The 2.3TL's are the best in the SRS series, IMO (although it's been many years since hearing the 1.2TL's). I own the 3.1TL's 2.3TL's and I have just about the same size room as you naturallight and they sound phenominal. If you buy the ones in the linked page above, you will be happy. Although, I would ask the seller what caps/resistors he redid the crossovers with.
All the caps are Daytons, (pictures in the c.l. add) not sure on the resistors. I'm sure the new Daytons still outperform the old originals. -
Conradicles wrote: »The manual states 2.3TL's are 8 ohm.
No, it says, "Compatible with 8 ohm outputs." That means they are 6 ohm nominal.Political Correctness'.........defined
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President of Club Polk -
No, it says, "Compatible with 8 ohm outputs." That means they are 6 ohm nominal.
How about the product page:
Total Frequency Response 12Hz-26kHz
Upper -3dB Limit 25 kHz
Lower -3dB Limit 30 Hz
Nominal Impedance 8 ohms
Efficiency 90 dB
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That would be wrong then.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
I have the original sales brochure for the TL series as well as the owners manual. They both state, "Compatible with 8 ohm outputs"
Polk did that for marketing and to ease confusion from the average Joe.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Also page 26 of the SDA Handbook states Polk raised the imp from 6 to 8 ohms.
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Believe what you want, they are 6 ohm nominal.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
F1, that applicable to all the SRS TL models or just the 2.3TL's?
I've been curious what my 3.1's should nominally be. I assumed they were 6 ohm normal. -
All TL's.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Thanks for the info guys. Glad to now the room will handle any of the SRS speakers.
But my plans have just changed. As luck would have it (or more to the point, lack there of) my furnace just bit the big one. I spent yesterday running around and getting space heats so the house dose not freeze. I was hopeing it would last a few more years...but not the case.
So any plans for SRS speakers this year, pretty much went out the window with the furnace...
About all i can afford now is a set of spikes for the 1C's...Maybe in a few months i can upgrade the tweeters..LOL
This "hobby" can pretty much drive you nuts..LOL I mean really nobody "NEEDS" a set of SRS's
I have a perfectly good set of 1C's sitting there, that really sound fine. My wife already thinks i'm nuts, as i have 3 sets of speakers sitting down there, and either the 1C's or the RTi12's will rattle the floors upstairs. To tell her i need even bigger speakers, would be a stretch..except i could use the ploy of..well if i find the right ones..then i would sell off all the other speakers...LOL
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naturallight wrote: »Thanks for the info guys. Glad to now the room will handle any of the SRS speakers.
But my plans have just changed. As luck would have it (or more to the point, lack there of) my furnace just bit the big one. I spent yesterday running around and getting space heats so the house dose not freeze. I was hopeing it would last a few more years...but not the case.
So any plans for SRS speakers this year, pretty much went out the window with the furnace...
About all i can afford now is a set of spikes for the 1C's...Maybe in a few months i can upgrade the tweeters..LOL
This "hobby" can pretty much drive you nuts..LOL I mean really nobody "NEEDS" a set of SRS's
I have a perfectly good set of 1C's sitting there, that really sound fine. My wife already thinks i'm nuts, as i have 3 sets of speakers sitting down there, and either the 1C's or the RTi12's will rattle the floors upstairs. To tell her i need even bigger speakers, would be a stretch..except i could use the ploy of..well if i find the right ones..then i would sell off all the other speakers...LOL
Which of course probably would never happen..
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I'm not sure why i bought the RTi12's to replace SDA speakers. That was a bad choice on my part.
I mean there is really nothing wrong with the RTi12's, i was just down listening to them again.
They will in fact shake my dropped ceiling..LOL if pushed. BUT..there not SDA's or my 1C's.
I played them thru a few CD's..but i got to the point of..this is just not great. Put the 1c's back in play
then things were good.
I'm not sure what to sell the RTI 12's for...they cost me 800 +from polk there only a little over a year old and just have not been used that much. I'm down in GA nomans land for stereo..plus nobody has money for this stuff. But i figure $650 is about what i can let them go for.
Not sure anybody would buy them down here..but i don't feel i can let them go for less.
Just my stupid problem to pick them out, for speakers i knew i could not replace in the first place.
Plus the fact..you can't run these speakers on some crap AVR..they will not work to well. You need a good size high current power amp to make them work.
I may throw them on CL...see if anybody bite's..but $650 is firm...so don't hold to much hope on that..LOL
If they sell..well i can put some of the money at the furnace..then maybe spend the other on tweeters...LOL
