Building two power cords and would appreciate advice
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^Poor folks? Anyone who can drop 3k on a powercable isnt a "poor" folk IMHO.
Plus here's my question, how much silver or gold content is in that cable for that price? For that amount you could almost run a non plated silver cable to your speakers....
For 300,000 to 1 million that better be a 0 gauge set of 3 solid core silver wires in that cable.....
P.S. welcome to the bozo list cheezy..."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Patrick is a failure in virtually every sense of the word.
I would tend to believe the claims of actual eletrical engineers that work for the big name manufacturers over a college drop out who believes using coconut husks and play dough will make a difference in audio quality.
As stated before, this cheezy character is delusional at best and a paranoid schizophrenic at worst. Probably the least useful poster to ever troll these forums."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Compared to people that can afford million dollar cables this is poor. Besides, it all depends on your mind no matter how much or little money you have. If you can't afford it? SAVE IT and buy it later. That's what I do. I normally put $1000~ 1500 down. Pay the rest via monthly installments. The beauty about Patrick's system is that he charges no interest, for now that is. Since I'm so happy with the performance of his cables some day I may just send him 100 bucks so he can go out with his wife for a dinner..Just to show him as my deep appreciation.EndersShadow wrote: »^Poor folks? Anyone who can drop 3k on a powercable isnt a "poor" folk IMHO.
I can't send money now I'm broke.
NONE. It uses 5 x solid pure copper conductors and surrounded by Piezoelectric Quarts Crystals tuned at every stages during build process. High purity Quartz crystals are more expensive than the diamonds.Plus here's my question, how much silver or gold content is in that cable for that price? For that amount you could almost run a non plated silver cable to your speakers....
Problem with silver core is that while it does have silky shiny details in the upper frequencies it doesn't have meat-pounding bass or impact and lacks detail and resolution in the lower frequencies. Solid copper does well in the lower frequencies with more punch but it lacks high frequencies and silkiness. White Night Power cable does BOTH AND with better sound in both ends of the spectrum with more silkiness, crystal clarity, transparency , micro details, and greater depth across the entire spectrum.
Adria Power has the following spec:For 300,000 to 1 million that better be a 0 gauge set of 3 solid core silver wires in that cable.....
10 meter
Weight: 11 kg
5x 13awg solid core copper conductors
100% coverage thick aluminum shield
4-stage Athena Crystal formula (full coverage) (0.01g accuracy)
2-stage Athena liquification buffering rings (0.01g accuracy)
2-stage Athena liquification plug resonance dampening (0.01g accuracy)
2-stage Athena liquification plates (0.01g accuracy)
Silver powder 3D shield for high frequencies
Black crystal shielding for low frequencies
Whitewood tree fibers
Furutech Rhodium plated plugs
Extra long burn-in
Most of the money is on the crystal formula and extra cleaning stages. There is no discount on this one. You have to pay the full price One million dollars.
I was never in the closet. I am mature and post only when I feel I need to. This is good cable discussion.I hoped he had disappeared for good, but it looks like someone let him out of the closet again.
This is not suitable for the rookies. It's difficult to swallow this information. I too had difficulty swallowing a few years ago. Glad I took a shot at it and found myself in heaven, or alien planet.For anyone new to the game, please disregard all the ignorance he spews.
cheezy -
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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I too had difficulty swallowing a few years ago..
Somehow you swallowed the BS.....:evil:....."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Hook line and sinker Dan.
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That's how most skeptics see as BS. But not the people who actually own these cables. Can't beat user experience. And I don't expect you to swallow due to extreme price. You might some years down the road.... Some years ago I never even knew there were markets for aftermarket POWER CORDS.EndersShadow wrote: »Somehow you swallowed the BS.....:evil:.....
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It's not really true love if you don't swallow.That's how most skeptics see as BS. But not the people who actually own these cables. Can't beat user experience. And I don't expect you to swallow due to extreme price. You might some years down the road.... Some years ago I never even knew there were markets for aftermarket POWER CORDS.
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And here I was hoping he would swallow his own tongue. Imagine my disappointment.
"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Haha!
Funny how Cheezy tried to be a totally different person until now!
I used to follow Patrick's forum on Audio Asylum, just to see, until they canceled it.
Then it hit me!
Cheezy followed him around everywhere on the net, Crazy exhanges on YouTube, ect.
EXCEPT ON AA!
Weird that since Patrick HAD his own forum on AA, yet Cheezy NEVER POSTED a single time, even when Patrick was begging for food and wanting to trade cables for Food!!
The entire forum was just Patrick posting to himself (nobody else bothered).
Big fan of Patrick's cables Cheezy?
Yet never posted on the Coconut Audio forum?
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Damn...I missed out on the cables for food program?!? I coulda had new chew toys for my dog for the cost of a can of turnips!"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Rumor has it that illegal aliens spraying Lemon Pledge on a Pangea cable outperforms a Coconut Audio cable with coconut paste and alien crystals.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
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Rumor has it that illegal aliens spraying Lemon Pledge on a Pangea cable outperforms a Coconut Audio cable with coconut paste and alien crystals.
It's no rumor BF. I know as I am an illegal alien who has used Lemon Pledge on a Panga power cable. It does wonders (but only for illegal aliens).**
**Disclaimer:NONE of the above is false. It's all true. And by true I mean false, but I am lying about it being true. So it's really false. Got it?
P.S. I love this thread......
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."![:\](https://forum.polkaudio.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
You guys play with words a lot better than I can. I thought I came in here to entertain cool Polk folks but it seems I am being entertained by them. This is going backwards.:redface:
What's the link to AA? I want to check it out. I've never been to that forum. I chat him through youtube and anandtech forum... maybe I should go to his forum directly.Haha!
Funny how Cheezy tried to be a totally different person until now!
I used to follow Patrick's forum on Audio Asylum, just to see, until they canceled it.
Then it hit me!
Cheezy followed him around everywhere on the net, Crazy exhanges on YouTube, ect.
EXCEPT ON AA!
Weird that since Patrick HAD his own forum on AA, yet Cheezy NEVER POSTED a single time, even when Patrick was begging for food and wanting to trade cables for Food!!
The entire forum was just Patrick posting to himself (nobody else bothered).
cheezy -
You're just now realizing we are having fun at your expense?"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
After post #38 above, this thread kind of went off track. Let me try to get it going in the right direction, at least for a bit.
When I reported on my completion of the shotgun Supra LoRad PCs for my CD player and preamp, I didn't post any pictures of the final terminations of the cables because I had to install them with the IEC end unterminated so that I could get the cables through a cabinet base and the floor below.
Well, in honor of pepster's comment about my first cable-build project (In essence, "If there are no pictures, it didn't happen."), I'm posting some pictures of the terminations of the installed PCs. The cable with the red marker is marked to indicate that it serves the CD player.
The picture below shows the male plugs sitting on top of the Silver Circle Pure Power One 5.0 into which they are plugged.
This next picture shows the IEC end of the PC that serves the CD player.
The next one shows the IEC end of the PC that serves the preamp.
The next two show the PC for the CD plaver connected to my burn-in box from pepster, which is also connected to a lamp with a three-way bulb (50-100-150 watts) that I am using to give the cables a good burn in over a couple of nights. Pepster quite rightly chastised me for NOT using his burn-in box in the first instance. It is simple and effective, and impatience to listen is no excuse for not taking the right course immediately. However, I think I can remedy my transgression in this manner!
By the way, building these two PCs myself cost me just under $700, all in. They sound great, and I expect them to sound really great after proper burn-in time. (I don't count my time as worth much, because I'm just an old, retired guy!)
To top it all off, they didn't cost me $1,000,000, and I had the considerable satisfaction of doing it myself. As old Ben said, "Cut your own wood, and it warms you twice."
Cheers, guys! Onward and upward to another enlightening and entertaining cable discussion! :biggrin:Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One. -
Very nice Phil!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Very nice Phil!
Thank you, my friend!
And thanks also for all your help on this project and several others!Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One. -
Those are some "BEEFY" looking cables! Nice Job :biggrin: Congrats!Sunfire Theater Grand IV
Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
SRS 2.1TL
SDA 2BTL's
CSiA6
FXiA4
FXiA6
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helipilotdoug wrote: »Those are some "BEEFY" looking cables! Nice Job :biggrin: Congrats!
Thank you, and thank you for your interest and advice.
I'm very happy with the improvement in the sound over the stock cables, as well as over the 10AWG Carroll Cable DIY cables I made as a "test" run before making these with the double run of Supra LoRad cable and Furutech connectors. And I haven't even completed burn-in with the burn-in box I got from pepster. Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One. -
That was not cool locking my thread like that.... I just had a day left before receiving my cable.
Cheezy -
And yet you still aren't getting the hint...and not only that, you are now thread-crapping on someone else's thread.
Come on mods...ban this tool PLEASE."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Nice mod. How do you like the sound quality so far? Please share your experience.Moose68Bash wrote: »After post #38 above, this thread kind of went off track. Let me try to get it going in the right direction, at least for a bit.
When I reported on my completion of the shotgun Supra LoRad PCs for my CD player and preamp, I didn't post any pictures of the final terminations of the cables because I had to install them with the IEC end unterminated so that I could get the cables through a cabinet base and the floor below.
Well, in honor of pepster's comment about my first cable-build project (In essence, "If there are no pictures, it didn't happen."), I'm posting some pictures of the terminations of the installed PCs. The cable with the red marker is marked to indicate that it serves the CD player.
The picture below shows the male plugs sitting on top of the Silver Circle Pure Power One 5.0 into which they are plugged.
This next picture shows the IEC end of the PC that serves the CD player.
The next one shows the IEC end of the PC that serves the preamp.
The next two show the PC for the CD plaver connected to my burn-in box from pepster, which is also connected to a lamp with a three-way bulb (50-100-150 watts) that I am using to give the cables a good burn in over a couple of nights. Pepster quite rightly chastised me for NOT using his burn-in box in the first instance. It is simple and effective, and impatience to listen is no excuse for not taking the right course immediately. However, I think I can remedy my transgression in this manner!
By the way, building these two PCs myself cost me just under $700, all in. They sound great, and I expect them to sound really great after proper burn-in time. (I don't count my time as worth much, because I'm just an old, retired guy!)
To top it all off, they didn't cost me $1,000,000, and I had the considerable satisfaction of doing it myself. As old Ben said, "Cut your own wood, and it warms you twice."
Cheers, guys! Onward and upward to another enlightening and entertaining cable discussion! :biggrin:
thanks,
Cheezy -
Nice mod. How do you like the sound quality so far? Please share your experience.
thanks,
Cheezy
First you bad mouth the OP several times and NOW you ask how they sound??????
Well they sound like crap you were right all along
NOW GO AWAY
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I need one for my TV. Unfortunately the input on the TV is too small for any aftermarket cable with big plugs to fit... I need a custom made power cord. But I don't make one myself. I let the professionals handle that.
Seriously, I would like OP to tell us how the music sounds now. The burn-in should be completed by now. Tell us how it sounds. More detail would be great as I am curious.
Cheezy -
I need one for my TV. Unfortunately the input on the TV is too small for any aftermarket cable with big plugs to fit... I need a custom made power cord. But I don't make one myself. I let the professionals handle that.
Seriously, I would like OP to tell us how the music sounds now. The burn-in should be completed by now. Tell us how it sounds. More detail would be great as I am curious.
Cheezy
To you, Cheezy, I am sorry to report that the PCs I built sound "ghetto" or, perhaps, cheezy is a more highly technical, accurate, and apt description. I would strongly advise you to let the professionals do it to, no for you. I am convinced by your prior posts that your spending $1.0 million (or thereabouts) for a really first rate PC would be well worth the money you spent on it.
With respect to a new cable for your TV: I suggest that you take it to Best Buy and ask them to fulfill your requirements. As I understand it, their Geek Squad guys are really first rate. However, I don't know whether they can deal in Athena liquification plates and black crystal shielding, which appear to be among your technical requirements for full customer satisfaction.
Just my humble opinion.Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One. -
I need one for my TV. Unfortunately the input on the TV is too small for any aftermarket cable with big plugs to fit... I need a custom made power cord.
I would not even consider putting ANY power cable that cost under $550,000.00 on a TV!
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nooshinjohn wrote: »Our favorite troll getting ready for another hard day at the office.
That poor shower in the background....... reminds me of the "little engine that could" book.:redface:Testing
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