Please tell me my speakers aren't destroyed

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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    First off your reported AGAIN..
    Second How can you be 100% sure it's the Amp?
    Third never seen this issue over at the Emo forum except from g42
    If such info was posted there, it would have been deleted shortly after.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    First off your reported AGAIN..
    Second How can you be 100% sure it's the Amp?
    Third never seen this issue over at the Emo forum except from g42


    What are you pissed about that? Emo sucks I agree.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,548
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    First off your reported AGAIN..

    You go sport.....LOL
    Second How can you be 100% sure it's the Amp?

    Because I know more than you.
    Third never seen this issue over at the Emo forum except from g42

    I'm sure you're more at home there.
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  • g42
    g42 Posts: 20
    edited January 2013
    Anybody here know whether Polk's tech support is useful by email or does it have to be by phone? I just prefer email to phone since during business hours I'm either driving, around noise, and often in poor reception areas. Also email would allow me to show pics such as above. But I know some companies just don't respond to emails in a timely fashion.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,548
    edited January 2013
    You don't need Polk's tech support, you need an audio repair firm because your caps are blown. You should get them repaired quickly before the cap goo starts to eat whatever it came in contact with.
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  • Tankman
    Tankman Posts: 419
    edited January 2013
    @F1nut,..You think cause of the High Gain that Emotvia has on there amps may have been why the caps in his speakers went out?
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  • Tankman
    Tankman Posts: 419
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    First off your reported AGAIN..
    Second How can you be 100% sure it's the Amp?
    Third never seen this issue over at the Emo forum except from g42
    Now why go and do something like that?Like Him or not but too report F1nut cause he doesn't like EMO gear?My XPA-5 sucks the big one for two channel music and to me is good for HT.My EMO monoblocks are better for two channel music but are they great? No they are not.I have EMO gear cause well they are cheap too buy.Don't let your feelings get in the way of someone trying too help someone out in here.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,548
    edited January 2013
    Tankman wrote: »
    @F1nut,..You think cause of the High Gain that Emotvia has on there amps may have been why the caps in his speakers went out?

    Well, something happened. I've never seen caps with a flared out bottom like those and that amber stuff doesn't look like any hot glue I've seen either. Some of those wires look a bit melted, but that could be from the solder job.

    I don't care if he reports me, won't be the first time and won't be the last. Folks get so worked up when their baby is called ugly. Me, I could care less if someone said that some piece of gear I owned sucked. I don't take all of this seriously, neither should he.
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2013
    Make a lime out of a lemonade and send those xovers to VR3 for a upgrade.
    Send the the amp back for a testing then a replacement or repair.
    Be calm take your time get it right :biggrin:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    edited January 2013
    Yep, remove the crossovers and send them out to get redone. VR3 would help you on that. You need someone who knows what their doing as it appears the goo is leaking from those caps and as F1NUT said, who knows what else is fried.

    I'm not so sure it was the Emo itself that did it. I have a feeling the day you hooked up the amp you gave it a good test drive and turned up that volume pretty loud.....very loud actually. Adding an amp isn't for increasing the volume by leaps and bounds incase you were under that impression.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,237
    edited January 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    I'm not so sure it was the Emo itself that did it. I have a feeling the day you hooked up the amp you gave it a good test drive and turned up that volume pretty loud.....very loud actually. Adding an amp isn't for increasing the volume by leaps and bounds incase you were under that impression.


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  • blehmbo
    blehmbo Posts: 179
    edited January 2013
    I saw the suggestions but did not see a clear reply stating that you set the front speakers to LARGE or used PURE DIRECT with a two channel source. Did you try either?
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited January 2013
    OK..lets face it..the cross-overs don't look good at all. If you bought the 7's from Polk and only had them for a year..there under warranty. They will replace the cross-overs at no charge.

    If your not the original owner..then i don't know, but you can buy the cross-overs from Polk, tell them your a forum member and you will get a discount on them.



    If you bought the EMO amp new..pack it up send it back to them tell them it blew up your cross-overs and get your money back. If you bought it used..not sure what to tell you except...don't put it back in your rig.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,415
    edited January 2013
    F1nut wrote: »

    I don't care if he reports me, won't be the first time :lol:and won't be the last. Folks get so worked up when their baby is called ugly. Me, I could care less if someone said that some piece of gear I owned sucked. I don't take all of this seriously, neither should he.

    Like dude.... Ummm, Emoettes take ummmm like EVERYTHING totally seriously! Why do you think their parents hide the razor blades? :twisted::lol:
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2013
    Not If I report, Already done..Against Forum Rules.
    Why do you have to say ANYTHING SUCKS..
    Like I'm sure this is the first time a speaker has blown a cap or whatever it was.
    I don't see you gear listed..
    Anyway Your not worth my time other than to Report when I'll use Bluefox's new Favorite word" Stupidity" is used..
    F1nut wrote: »
    Well, something happened. I've never seen caps with a flared out bottom like those and that amber stuff doesn't look like any hot glue I've seen either. Some of those wires look a bit melted, but that could be from the solder job.

    I don't care if he reports me, won't be the first time and won't be the last. Folks get so worked up when their baby is called ugly. Me, I could care less if someone said that some piece of gear I owned sucked. I don't take all of this seriously, neither should he.
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited January 2013
    That's OK noshoesjohn..
    According to the guys here your Pioneer Elite is not Elite, not worthy of Elite Status..
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Like dude.... Ummm, Emoettes take ummmm like EVERYTHING totally seriously! Why do you think their parents hide the razor blades? :twisted::lol:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2013
    Emo's suck .....caps blow ! Oh, the drama ! It is woefully inadequate to have only one audio rig in a domicile, Emo or otherwise.:wink::smile: Do not accept derision from anyone that admires Sarah Palin's keen intellect.:lol:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    edited January 2013
    Yep, sad isn't it ? When you bring Sarah Palins intellect into an audio thread. Clearly if we had Obummers intellect, all you audio snobs would have to share your gear with the Emo-ites. :rolleyes:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2013
    edited due to further consideration.........:cheesygrin:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    , all you audio snobs would have to share your gear with the Emo-ites. :rolleyes:

    For the record, I think you'd find it difficult to find someone that's less of an audio snob than I am. I don't dislike EMO, in the least. I do dislike that they, like so much other stuff comes from a country with such menace towards us in America and, a dismal record where human rights are concerned. :wink:
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited January 2013
    I don't care about EMO amps, one way or another. There cheaper then other stuff..if you like them great.

    The fact if the OP had a set of RTi7's working fine off his Yamaha...gets an Emo amp, plugs that in to run the 7's....and blows his Cross-overs..on BOTH speakers..that should tell you this amp is NOT good. There is pretty much a problem with this amp.

    I don't think anybody said this is a constant with EMO amps. I'm sure it's not.



    The ops EMO amp..needs to be sent back....Not something that you want to plug in a new set of Cross-overs into.
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  • pdxfj
    pdxfj Posts: 376
    edited January 2013
    Hey.. enough already.. sheez..

    Guy comes in here wanting HELP and the thread degrades into another "EMO" flame fest.. Makes CP look like a bunch of idiots..

    Let's get this tread back on track and help the OP.

    As far as the "glue" used on the XO it looks the same as what was on my A7' XO's.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,548
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Not If I report, Already done..Against Forum Rules.
    Why do you have to say ANYTHING SUCKS..
    Like I'm sure this is the first time a speaker has blown a cap or whatever it was.
    I don't see you gear listed..
    Anyway Your not worth my time other than to Report when I'll use Bluefox's new Favorite word" Stupidity" is used..

    This is your brain on drugs, kiddies. Just say no.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,548
    edited January 2013
    g42, I opened up one of my RTi A7's for you. The lower board with the 8.2uF and 18uF caps (your pics) is the high frequency board. My caps also have the flared out bottom (weird, never saw caps like that before), but my resistors are all white, no amber/dark brown stuff on them. There is a very light amber colored (almost clear) glue of some sort on the board around the caps and resistors unlike yours, which has melted and turned considerably darker. That would indicate damage from things getting way too hot.

    The low frequency board is the top one. There is one cap (C6), one resistor (R3) and one large inductor. I would look at that board for your problem.

    Bottom line, your crossovers are the problem right now and need to be repaired.

    How high (exactly) did you crank the volume with the amp in the system?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited January 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Well, something happened. I've never seen caps with a flared out bottom like those and that amber stuff doesn't look like any hot glue I've seen either. Some of those wires look a bit melted, but that could be from the solder job.

    I don't care if he reports me, won't be the first time and won't be the last. Folks get so worked up when their baby is called ugly. Me, I could care less if someone said that some piece of gear I owned sucked. I don't take all of this seriously, neither should he.

    Jesse, that VTL you own sucks...er wait...I own VTL, I guess I suck too. :sad:
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,068
    edited January 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Like I'm sure this is the first time a speaker has blown a cap or whatever it was.

    It's the first pair of caps that particular Emo amp has blown.
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,068
    edited January 2013
    To the OP, Sorry to hear about your speakers. Those XO's are light enough that it won't cost you an arm and a leg to get them shipped back to Polk for repair. Their customer service is excellent and I'm positive you won't find the repair bill extreme. If you know a good local repair guy, you can order the replacement components from Polk at a reduced price for being a CP member.

    Blowing caps or other parts like that is not normal. Not knocking your Emo but my advice is to return it and find a used amp from a higher end manufacturer. For around the same price, you'll be much happier all the way around.
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  • Energene
    Energene Posts: 8
    edited January 2013
    The receiver is a bit weak for this set up and your configuration is suspect.
    Its very difficult to blow multiple woofers at once.
    Check speaker shorts +/- reversals at rear of amps/receiver/speakers.
    I agree with folks who said crossovers are blown and Emo amp is suspect.
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  • pdxfj
    pdxfj Posts: 376
    edited January 2013
    Heck, if the OP can use a soldering iron I'll mail him the stock caps and resistors out of my A7's. I'll never be putting them back in after upgrading.
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  • gce
    gce Posts: 2,158
    edited January 2013
    PolkieMan wrote: »
    Make a lime out of a lemonade and send those xovers to VR3 for a upgrade.

    ^^^^^This^^^^^ You'll be happy you did!
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