RTA 11TL's - what do I need to know
EndersShadow
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So I am going to be picking up the RTA 11TL's dracoskeeper listed to use in place of my Polk Monitor 60's in my office. I have a very small space measuring 10x11. The plan is for these to be in the corners on the 11' wall.
Is there anything I need to be aware of regarding these speakers setup wise? I cant move them out too far into the room from the wall and have maybe 6 inches to play with there.
Do these normally require toe it, etc?
Just wanted to be ablet to set these up as quickly as possible so I can get maximum listening time on em the day I pick em up
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Is there anything I need to be aware of regarding these speakers setup wise? I cant move them out too far into the room from the wall and have maybe 6 inches to play with there.
Do these normally require toe it, etc?
Just wanted to be ablet to set these up as quickly as possible so I can get maximum listening time on em the day I pick em up
. "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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I had RTA-8TL's and they were pretty nice.
11TL's should be better.
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=247390
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86478
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Are the 11TL's 6 ohm or 8 ohm speakers? I was assuming they were 8 as thats what Polks site lists em at but I am finding some references to them being 6 ohm.
Also IIRC they can have RDO's installed (which I may or may not do). If this is the case which tweeter would I use and what are the costs for it?
Obviously I wont know if I want to do the tweeter upgrade till I hear em, or I may do it just because depending on the cost."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
The 11t's are 6 ohm, the 11tl's are 8 ohm. Wow, that's a small room for those...Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me
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The 11t's are 6 ohm, the 11tl's are 8 ohm.
Good, I was hoping that would be the case. The tube amp can handle 6 ohms, but I prefer 8 ohms so I dont stress it at all...Wow, that's a small room for those...
Yes it is, but its what I got for now. I can always carry em downstairs if I wanted to (when the wife is out and about).
I am hoping the 18-20 watts per channel of tube power will be enough to make em sound good.
This rig will hopefully last for a long time...."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
i like my 11T's slightly toed in. and my room is only a smidge larger.
both are in corners, 6 inches off of each adjacent wall. my room is not ideal, but this seems to give me the best imaging and bass.
i will be anxious to hear what you think. mine have a very large soundstage, and the tweets are a perfect height for me in a chair at my desk.Polk Lsi9
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Good to know Steve!
PS here is my new listening chair
It was custom made by one of my uncles last week. It's as sturdy as it comes! Almost untippable"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
almost, huh??? :cheesygrin:
she's a beaut! your uncle has some talent.
my room is also hard and untreated still. plaster walls, wood floors but a large center rig, and two office desks... i need to work on that next but have no idea where to start. i assume yours is more of a listening room?Polk Lsi9
N.E.W. A-20 class A 20W
NAD 1020 completely refurbished
Keces DA-131 mk.II
Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2 -
she's a beaut! your uncle has some talent
Yes yes he does! It made our week for sure!i assume yours is more of a listening room?
Eh, not really, it's got my desk and the digs cages in there but the middle of the room is open so I will prib keep the rocking chair where it needs to be and move my computer chair as needed."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
I've come to the conclusion that the only way you get a decent listening room is to build it yourself. In every house we've owned/lived in all the rooms left much to be desired. Not because of the treatments but because of the layouts, although the "decor" didn't help.
Anyway, enjoy those 11tl's. I used to have a pair long ago, nice speakers as long as you don't push them like I did. Ah, the younger, more foolish days of youth. Blew all four drivers out of those...Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me -
That is a rather small room for the RTA11TL's as they do like some breathing room; not a show stopper though. I would toe them in a little to get the sweet spot where you are seated for listening. That power should be fine. Yes, they are 8 ohms. My RTA11TL's are able to fill my family room and kitchen (26' x 14') with full sound even at low volume.
The RDO-198 tweeter is definitely a worthwhile upgrade as is upgrading the crossover caps and resistors. The sound stage becomes much more open and dimensional. Dynamat the MW and PR baskets too.Stan
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601 -
I realize this is a bump to an old thread, but I wanted to post this information here in case others found this thread later on.
Here are some threads for reference:
Pics of a 11TL crossover (kinda): http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?84490-Help-me-plan-troubleshoot-my-11TL-crossover-redo&highlight=11tl
a 11T to 11TL mod: http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?7846-RTA-11t-to-11tl-upgrade-and-tweaks-final-assembly!&highlight=11tl
link to the pictures of this mod: http://webpages.charter.net/btreinen/speaker_tweak.htm"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
I've been searching for some information on placement for my RTAs, finally found something! Thanks for starting this thread!Just a dude doing dude-ly things
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Would you be able to take some pictures of the grills and measurements? Mine are missing and I am more than likely going to have to make some.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
Do you have the T or the TL? I can take some pics and measures of my TL's if that is what you have. I think the grill for the T is different.
I posted some info on the TL.
stanStan
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601 -
Yeah I have the TL version. Thanks that'd be great!Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
Just saw this. I've since parted with them so I can't get your measurements but I see someone else has got you covered."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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I took some quick measurements. The inner edge of the top portion of the grill is rounded over to refuse refraction.
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Stan
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601 -
Dude....you're awesome.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
^No joke. You couldn't ask for more than that."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
