Would you set your CS20 to Large of Small on your receiver?

buckrogers

Hi, I have two Tsi300 speakers, one low-end Yamaha subwoofer, and a CS20 speakers.

What should I put my receiver to? Large or small? I read if you do small it sets the crossover at 80hz but if you put large the bass goes to the regular speaker. I kind of like large myself. Is that because my subwoofer is sub-par (it is I know, a htib leftover).

Thanks.

cowtrimmer

I would set it at whichever one sounds better to you. A better sub in the mix will free up that center speaker for what its designed to do and not be a large bass source.

pearsall001

http://www.ecoustics.com/articles/set-speakers-small-receiver-setup/

bansheesho

Do what sounds best. Try both out and see what you like best. For my setup with my ears I prefer large for the front three speakers and small for the rear. I find that seeing a crossover at 80hz makes content sound thin.

Give each setting a fair trial then decide. If it's available as an option you might also try lower crossover points too.

mantis

Small , it doesn't have the ability to play full range. Let the sub do everything under 80hz. Most speakers in a home theater setup should be in small. This gives you the best dynamic range and clarity.

tonyb

buckrogers wrote: »

Hi, I have two Tsi300 speakers, one low-end Yamaha subwoofer, and a CS20 speakers.

What should I put my receiver to? Large or small? I read if you do small it sets the crossover at 80hz but if you put large the bass goes to the regular speaker. I kind of like large myself. Is that because my subwoofer is sub-par (it is I know, a htib leftover).

Thanks.

Which ever sounds best to you in your environment. There are no absolutes. Given you have a HTIB sub, it can't play that low anyway. Are your speakers hooked up to the receiver or the sub ? Just be carefull with that volume dial if you set the center to large.

buckrogers

tonyb wrote: »

Which ever sounds best to you in your environment. There are no absolutes. Given you have a HTIB sub, it can't play that low anyway. Are your speakers hooked up to the receiver or the sub ? Just be carefull with that volume dial if you set the center to large.

What can happen? Will it blow up the driver?

Lietuvis91

I feel like i've tried it all, and what's actually pretty fun is if you have gobs of power from a beefy amp it's actually kind of fun to set the center to large and have it produce the full range. My CS2 puts on a quiet a slamin' show with action flicks when I feed it 400watts by an hca1000 bridged. You really do get the feeling like you're in the middle of it all, and it honestly can get to be too much even.

However, with most run of the mill avrs, centers set to large don't get even close to getting it done in the low end and it just muddies up the sound, particularly speach. So, give both a try, if you like, but my bet is you'll like "small" better. Just better clarity and detail and the sub is better at handling low end anyway.

PubFiction

You should set it to small if you have a sub and large if you do not. If you have a ton of power in your amp I suppose you could set it to large with a sub, but it you would need to re balance everything / re run room correction. Most people cannot get their sub to do much of anything if they have speakers set to large which then wastes your sub, but you arent going low with the CS2 so you need the sub anyway.

The other option is just to set the crossover point for LFE very low like 40-50 hz on the receiver.

Csa73

Thanks for the link pearsall001. It helped me out.

kuntasensei

PubFiction wrote: »

The other option is just to set the crossover point for LFE very low like 40-50 hz on the receiver.

Not picking on ya'... Just clarifying a common mistake that people keep making. There is no crossover point for LFE. LFE is the low frequency effects channel, not the redirected bass from other channels. The subwoofer output of your receiver combines the LFE channel with the summed bass content determined by the system crossovers to produce a total output to your sub. Some AVRs have a "LPF of LFE" control, but that should always be set to its maximum of 120Hz so it doesn't truncate the LFE channel (which is brickwall filtered at 120Hz anyway by design and mixers rarely put significant content over 80Hz there regardless).

As far as the CS2 goes, if the receiver only has Large/Small, pick Small. The CS2 has a lower -3dB point of 60Hz and a natural rolloff around 55Hz. It is not made for full-range reproduction no matter how much power you can feed it and is perfect for the typical 80Hz crossover most AVRs use as "small". If your system has adjustable crossovers per-channel, I recommend setting the crossover around 10Hz above the speaker's -3dB point and trying that (which would be 70Hz in your case). That gives you a little room for the speaker-to-sub transition to occur before the speaker's natural rolloff kicks in.

If you're not happy with the bass in that configuration, I recommend saving up for something better than that HTIB sub.

buckrogers

On my receiver, Yamaha HTR-5930, It only has a +- scale for LFE. I'm not sure what to put there.

cnh

I run a CS2 in one of my systems and it depends on the room. But 60 (it's natural roll off point) to 80hz is the range I would experiment with until you see what sounds best to "you". That could be 60, 70, or 80hz.

As mentioned above, there really are no absolutes here. And what you here is the baseline!

The +/- you're seeing is probably loudness levels for the SUB channel. Perhaps in a range from -20db to +12 or something like that. That IS NOT the crossover, but allows you to increase or decrease the volume level of the sub channel in relation to the others!

Have fun tweaking!

cnh

mantis

Set the center channel to small , 80hz crossover to the sub. If your sub is not up tot the task , do yourself a huge favor and save up for a good quality sub. If you need suggestions , please list your entire system , room size , uses etc.