Front height vs back surround

friggy
friggy Posts: 66
edited December 2012 in Speakers
I am setting up my son with my old set up, which consists of Onkyo 806, RTi10's, RTi6's, and CSi3 center. Due to limited space and young kids I was thinking about using the RTi6's as front height speakers instead of back speakers, so everything would be up front. Anybody have this set up? Do you think it would work ok?

Thanks Ken
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Marantz 6007
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,470
    edited December 2012
    I've used heights before. IMO they yeild more content than rears, not much though. If he had the room, I'd go wides but.....if room was unavailable, I'd go heights before rears.

    Congrats on your amp btw. Pretty nice addition to your rig right??? Jam on my friend.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
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  • friggy
    friggy Posts: 66
    edited December 2012
    Yes it is. Never would've thought it would make such a difference but it sure did.

    Thanks for the help. Ken
    Panasonic 50"
    Panasonic BPD 50
    Marantz 6007
    B&W CM9
    B&W CM2BG
    CM 1's
    HSU 3MK4
    XPA 5
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,470
    edited December 2012
    No prob my friend, so, from now on, you'll be able to answer the biggest question in audio; "Is it worth it to get an amp or not?" :mrgreen:
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited December 2012
    i have F Heights and no rears. Since my receiver can only support 7 channels i don't know what to do. Difficult to tell what is better. Heights are pretty much useless ezcept when a helicopter hovers over. But then it's really awesome as you hear it landing on top of ya. Not much help in other situations though, and i don't have that many helicopters landing. I only chose FH instead of rear because i have nowhere to put them in the back.. or very difficult..
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,470
    edited December 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    Heights are pretty much useless ezcept when a helicopter hovers over...

    Planes, jets, rockets, thunder and rain storms, even superman flies overhead. I believe heights offer a little more than hovering helicopters.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited December 2012
    ok, when something flies over. But when u watch river monsters or The Office the rears will come more useful. All in all, majority of TV I watch is low on over-flying stuff. Ideally one would have a 9 channel and not have to sacrifice. My next thing on the list. Even if I had preouts for rears that would be cool.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    jeremymarcinko wrote: »
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
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  • michael1947
    michael1947 Posts: 775
    edited December 2012
    This is interesting information, think I will hook up some front highs, gotta look around and see what I have sitting around. Thanks.
    Main Family Room: Sony 46 LCD, Sony Blue Ray, Sony DVD/VCR combo,Onkyo TXNR 708, Parasound 5250,
    Polk SDS-SRS with mods, CSI 5 center + Klipsch SC2, Polk RT2000P rears, Klipsch KG 1.5's sides, Polk Micro Pro 1000, Polk Micro Pro 2000, Polk SW505, Belkin PF60, Signal Cable Classics,Monster IC's, 2 15 amp circuits & 1 20 amp circuit.

    Living Room: Belkin PF60, Parasound HCA2200, MIT ProlineEXP balanced IC's,Emotiva XDA-1 DAC/Pre,Emotiva ERC2 transport,MIT AVT2, Polk LSI 9's.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited December 2012
    I would go rears before FH as everything has rear effects (hell, it's necessary for SURROUND sound) but height is just a simulation of sound. No real FH effects in the encoding. But if you want to say height vs surround back speakers, that's a different question.
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    Home Setup: Sony VPL-VW85 Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Pioneer Elite SC-65, PS3, RTi12 fronts, CSi5, FXi6 rears, RTi6 surround backs, RTi4 height, MFW-15 Subwoofer.

    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,470
    edited December 2012
    Toxis wrote: »
    But if you want to say height vs surround back speakers, that's a different question.


    ????? Surround back? The OP's question was back surround. Is there a difference?
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited December 2012
    The biggest reason to go with rear surrounds over height channels: There are 7.1 discrete theatrical tracks on Blu-ray discs now. I love my height channels, but first and foremost, I want to be able to recreate the audio from theaters. With so many movies going 7.1 now in the theater, I would definitely prioritize rear surrounds in a 7.1 setup over heights.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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